[cameron.personal]

Wirelessly posted (8100 on T-Mo: BlackBerry8320/4.2.2 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)

I wandered into starbucks this morning and connected with UMA and no login screen came up at all. I turned off "mobile network" and am now just connected with UMA. The internet conection is very fast and I just made a few calls. Pretty cool I will be stoked if it connects and allows me to make calls this easy from a wi fi connection in New Zealand.

[Dirky]

Originally Posted by renigade

Hi,
Im thinking of upgrading to a 8320 or 8120 with wifi? I am on T Mobile in the UK. Do you know if I can use UMA through my WLAN?
Thanks for any help.

Sadly not, for us poor brits nothing so advanced will work, according to t-mobile when I called them.
It must be because our GSM signal coverage is that great we dont need it
Hmm, coverage round my way is poor! I could really benifit from it.

Ahh, I know whats going to happen, RIM will be releasing a SIP client any day now, all my problems will be solved

Cant you tell its Friday!

So long.
D

[John Clark]

Originally Posted by DiabloZoe

UMA is an acronym for Unlicensed Mobile Access which is an access technology that allows subscribers to switch between fixed and mobile networks, without dropping a phone call.

UMA enables subscribers to switch between a Wide Area Cellular Network (WAN) to a Wireless Local Area Network (WLAN). This delivers high-performance, low-cost mobile voice, data and IMS services to subscribers over the broadband Wi-Fi access networks, dramatically increasing mobile service usage and decreases the costs for operators. It uses Bluetooth or 802.11 for wireless connections in your home or office.

UMA is part of the 3GPP (3rd Generation Partnership Program.)


Forgive me for not understanding! All I can make of this is if im using UMA im not getting charged? Or do I have to add the talk forever plan and then I don't get charged? My phone will hook up to a place and it wont show UMA but I can still get on the net its just hooked up WIFI?

You've asked the same question several times and I've given you the same answer. I'm not sure how else to explain this. It's not that complicated.

If your phone displays UMA then you can make phone calls using UMA. The minutes you use will be deducted from your rate plan the same as when using EDGE. There is no extra charge for UMA. If you add the Talk Forever plan then your minutes will not be deducted from your normal rate plan, thus giving you unlimited minutes over UMA.

If you have Wifi connected and it's bold (you have to hava a data plan for it to go bold) but does not display UMA (happens sometimes at hotels, etc. where you can't control the wifi network you're connected to) then your phone calls will use EDGE and your data will use the wifi. There is no extra charge for getting the data over your wifi.

I don't know how else to explain this for you.

[DiabloZoe]

PLease excuse me for the many times I asked the question! I guess what I was looking for is what is the purpose of UMA? Is it just for the talk forever plan? How does it benefit having a UMA phone and not just WIFI? The only reason I wanted WIFI was to be able to use the net when I wanted to and not have to add the BB data plan

[John Clark]

You can use the wifi to browse the net with no data plan. However, you can't get email or use any BB specific apps without a data plan.

UMA is an added feature with the wifi. If you don't use it, so be it.

[Dirky]

Originally Posted by John Clark

You can use the wifi to browse the net with no data plan. However, you can't get email or use any BB specific apps without a data plan.

UMA is an added feature with the wifi. If you don't use it, so be it.

Send your UMA over here to the UK, I'll use it!!!! ;)

[ricpac]

Originally Posted by Perfect Storm

Your carrier has to support UMA. To my knowledge T-Mobile US is the only carrier who does.

this is 100% correct, i hope T-Mobile US will reconsider its plans for world-dominance

[bbckm]

Originally Posted by DiabloZoe

if im using UMA im not getting charged?

If you are using Talk Forever Plan over UMA you are not getting charged.

Originally Posted by DiabloZoe

Or do I have to add the talk forever plan and then I don't get charged?

If you are using Talk Forever Plan over UMA you are not getting charged.

Originally Posted by DiabloZoe

My phone will hook up to a place and it wont show UMA but I can still get on the net its just hooked up WIFI?

If you are using Talk Forever Plan over UMA you are not getting charged.

[flash24]

It's not that complicated people... lol

[sgtcasey]

Originally Posted by flash24

It's not that complicated people... lol

Yep. This question is quickly moving up to the status of the "how do I turn off the camera noise" question.

Dave

[DiabloZoe]

Originally Posted by bbckm

If you are using Talk Forever Plan over UMA you are not getting charged.



If you are using Talk Forever Plan over UMA you are not getting charged.



If you are using Talk Forever Plan over UMA you are not getting charged.

WOW thanks for you input GENIUS! This was not a question about talk for ever it was to find out the purpose of UMA! And since youve been a member of the groups for so long and share great knowledge if I have a question I will direct it to you!

[John Clark]

Wirelessly posted (BB 8860: BlackBerry8320/4.3.1.22 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)

Originally Posted by DiabloZoe

WOW thanks for you input GENIUS! This was not a question about talk for ever it was to find out the purpose of UMA! And since youve been a member of the groups for so long and share great knowledge if I have a question I will direct it to you!

Uncalled for. There's no need for that. Your question has been answered several times here yet you still want to ask it.

[sgtcasey]

Originally Posted by DiabloZoe

it was to find out the purpose of UMA!

The purpose is to make phone calls. I'm not sure how much easier it could be to explain.

If you have a different question or the answer you are getting to your question is not what you were looking for perhaps you could re-word your question?

Dave

[DiabloZoe]

I apologize for the rude comment! Yes it has been answered! As it was posted above the original question was worded wrong! When I purchased the curve I knew nothing of the UMA feature. First place I went was the BB faq and it said coming soon! I dont use the phone for calls that much and the WIFI feature to get on the net once and a while! Was wanting to know how UMA could benefit me! And this has been addressed! Thanks

[rboy]

Originally Posted by NJBlackBerry

I thought you did.
I have e-mails somewhere from T-Mobile. Pretty sure that to get the free calling back to the US from overseas you have to have H@H.

is this true or you dont need the talk forever plan to do this?

[John Clark]

The H@H plan is not necessary to make the UMA calls back to the US. Without the H@H plan the minutes will just come out of your normal minute plan. With H@H you can have unlimited minutes.

[Triax88]

Hi everyone...New to the blackberry world but this site has been soooo helpful in making the transition from a windows based phone.

Sorry for sounding like a total noob but I have a question about UMA. Im using the 8320 here in Canada on Rogers. Rogers doesn't offer UMA up here but I will be going to Europe within the next month or so. My question is - if i find a UMA offering hotspot, could I take advantage of that and call back to Canada via wifi?

[John Clark]

No, your carrier has to offer the UMA service.

[stewsan]

I have to travel overseas extensively and the UMA works great for calling back to the USA. One added bonus I've noticed is that all the calls I receive from the USA, when I'm on UMA, are not charged for.... I've only received a little over a couple hundred since November but so far so good. I'm talking about international long distance rates, they are coming out of my bucket of minutes. I would recommend carrying a small portable wifi device when traveling as most hotels have ethernet in the rooms.