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Old 02-01-2008, 07:27 PM   #61
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What did you use to confirm the actual frame rates of a clip w/the previous OS and one w/the new OS?

When I view two different videos, Sprint or Alltel OS vs. US Cellular, they look the same...
well nothing official. i am just comparing videos taken with the original verizon software vs. .97

the videos from the original verizon edition are smoother, cleaner, and clearer.
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Old 02-01-2008, 07:28 PM   #62
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the memory in this .97 is much better than verizon orginal software. i hate to go back. should i try the alltel version 1st?!
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I would definitely go back from newest to oldest.

When you do, take a short video and post it so we can do a compare...I'm finding it hard to believe that the frame rate has changed dramatically (if at all) due in the newer OS releases, but I'd like to compare.

You can get frame rates from Apple's QuickTime player...open the file and select Window/Show Movie Inspector.
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I would definitely go back from newest to oldest.

When you do, take a short video and post it so we can do a compare...I'm finding it hard to believe that the frame rate has changed dramatically (if at all) due in the newer OS releases, but I'd like to compare.

You can get frame rates from Apple's QuickTime player...open the file and select Window/Show Movie Inspector.
REDFLEA - YOU WERE RIGHT ON! Thank you for suggesting Apple Movie Info...here's the scoop...

Checked out an old video recorded with Verizon original software and it averaged 15 FPS

Checked a new video with .97 and it averaged 8 FPS

WOW! How about that!

I am downloading .81 and will test and post FPS on that as soon as I am done.
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Are you guys talking abotu videos like movies or ones recorded on the BB itself. By the way I have all the 8130 O.S. Versions.
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Are you guys talking abotu videos like movies or ones recorded on the BB itself. By the way I have all the 8130 O.S. Versions.
talking about videos made with the 8130 device itself

what has your experience been with all 3 versions? what is your favorite?
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Don't know how to break it to you....I took a video earlier today w/.97 and it is 13 FPS. Checked an older one from December (Sprint .71 release) and it is 8 FPS.

Another old one (on Sprint .71) is 13.13 FPS, another is 13.73...etc.

The FPS appears to be variable...I don't know the variables that drive it yet - the lowest FPS was for a video shot indoors at my wife's brothers house, the highest was shot in a gymnasium.

All were in well lit situations.

So I don't know that a down-grade is going to buy you anything...I'd do a bit more investigation first.

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Checking the newest one right now.
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i am trying to install the alltel version (downgrade for me) but it will not load. i do not know what i am missing yet.
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Make sure you delete the Vendor.xml file...read the instructions in the first post on this thread.
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Also make sure deleted the other version off your computer or it will not work.
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got it! downgrading to .81 now.

will make a test video and post FPS as soon as it is done.
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Tried the video camera in my living room, not so good. I haven't really used it to much but I will definately try it during the day tomorrow outside. The camera on the other hand I think works very well for a BB or any other cell phone for that matter.
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Hate to say it, but I think you're wasting your time...

I got high FPS w/.91 and .71, also low FPS w/.71. I don't think you'll find anything different w/.81.

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I've always been underwhelmed by the video camera...but then I never expected much. It's a "checklist" feature...
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i am almost done with the "downgrade" process to .81

give me a minute to report!

all i can say for sure is this:
on my device .71 gave 15 FPS on average video record
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.97 gave 8 FPS on average video record
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well, using alltel .81 i am getting about 15 FPS again when using the video camera
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my conclusion is this:

the lower software versions offer more FPS in all lighting conditions

the higher software versions only offer more FPS when in well lit lighting areas
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I go 13.3 or something with .91, 8 with .71. I don't see any consistency there.
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10.2 with .81; 9.1 with .97. I agree with above--it's likely light dependent.
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