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03-28-2007, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jfanaian
The only problem is that MaxPower is still 100mA :(
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Well that's no fun -- ok. the first clue here is that the idProduct is still 0x0006, when after bcharge is run it should be 0x0004. So, lemme ask some questions about your setup:
- what OS version is on your Pearl?
- have you tried this as root user (maybe it's a permissions problem)?
- do you see anything in /var/log/messages that might provide a clue?
I don't know specifically what's wrong, but we can try and find out...
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03-28-2007, 03:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rivviepop
- have you tried this as root user (maybe it's a permissions problem)?
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That did the trick! Works perfect. Thank you so much.
What I did notice is that mass storage is disabled (I'm assuming because I can no longer access it) so does that mean that I can't access the device while charging? I have no problem with this as I can just unplug and plug it back in to access files, and I really don't need to while I'm charging all that often. Just for simplicity of not having to replug it everytime.
Thanks again, it works great!
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03-28-2007, 03:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfanaian
That did the trick! Works perfect. Thank you so much.
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Sweet, I like easy answers.
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What I did notice is that mass storage is disabled (I'm assuming because I can no longer access it) so does that mean that I can't access the device while charging?
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Mine works just fine -- do you actually have mass storage enabled on the Pearl and all that jazz? Also, I have another thread here on the forums where sometimes my mass storage doesn't mount -- I figured out it's because things "went too fast" with bcharge around.
My solution:
- put device mass storage into Prompt mode to mount
- plug in device, wait.
- Initial "not enough charge" screen flashes the goes away (indicating bcharge has run), then the "do you want to enable mass storage?" screen.
- *wait* a second or two, *then* press Yes.
Sometimes if it's the first time I've plugged in the Pearl since a reboot it doesn't work on the first try. I unplug, wait a second or two, then plug it back in; my guess is in this situation 'usb-storage.o' (kernel module) hasn't ever been loaded before, so it doesn't happen fast enough (remember, it has to load vfat, usb-storage, etc.) before the Pearl kicks in; the 2nd time you plug it in all these modules are loaded already in memory, so stuff Just Works(tm).
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03-28-2007, 04:05 PM
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I tried that, except the message doesn't show up anymore but its still at 100mA. What I do is plug it in, wait a few seconds. It prompts me to enable media support. I execute bcharge, verify that its at 500mA. Then tell it yes. It stays at 500mA but it does not mount the device.
Its no big deal though, I don't often use the storage so I don't mind switching out. Its nothing to waste your time on. I'm just glad I can charge it. Thanks so much!
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03-28-2007, 05:13 PM
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Im having a problem with my lowly old 7100t, i connect it and it doesnt seam to run bcharge automatically (during boot it says the UDEV rule is invalid and iv tried both forms within the rule file to no avail. but im using ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn so i can expect a few strangnesses). But when i run bcharge manually as root it says its changed the charge state and looking in lsusb -v it says its at 500mA but the charge icon on my Bb vanishes after a second or so of connection regardless. The only way i can get any form of charge process is by leaving barrybackup open/connected, even then tho its only a slow charge. Any ideas?
Heres what lsusb gives:
Code:
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0fca:0001 Research In Motion, Ltd. Blackberry Handheld
Device Descriptor:
bLength 18
bDescriptorType 1
bcdUSB 1.10
bDeviceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class
bDeviceSubClass 255 Vendor Specific Subclass
bDeviceProtocol 255 Vendor Specific Protocol
bMaxPacketSize0 64
idVendor 0x0fca Research In Motion, Ltd.
idProduct 0x0001 Blackberry Handheld
bcdDevice 1.04
iManufacturer 1 Research In Motion
iProduct 2 Terminal mobile RIM
iSerial 0
bNumConfigurations 1
Configuration Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 2
wTotalLength 46
bNumInterfaces 1
bConfigurationValue 1
iConfiguration 0
bmAttributes 0x80
(Bus Powered)
MaxPower 500mA
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 0
bAlternateSetting 0
bNumEndpoints 4
bInterfaceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class
bInterfaceSubClass 255 Vendor Specific Subclass
bInterfaceProtocol 255 Vendor Specific Protocol
iInterface 0
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN
bmAttributes 2
Transfer Type Bulk
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0040 1x 64 bytes
bInterval 0
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x02 EP 2 OUT
bmAttributes 2
Transfer Type Bulk
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0040 1x 64 bytes
bInterval 0
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x83 EP 3 IN
bmAttributes 2
Transfer Type Bulk
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0040 1x 64 bytes
bInterval 0
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x04 EP 4 OUT
bmAttributes 2
Transfer Type Bulk
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0040 1x 64 bytes
bInterval 0
Device Status: 0x0000
(Bus Powered)
then this is what it gives when connected to by barry backup:
EDIT: removed as its identical...
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03-28-2007, 05:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HuwSy
But when i run bcharge manually as root it says its changed the charge state and looking in lsusb -v it says its at 500mA but the charge icon on my Bb vanishes after a second or so of connection regardless. The only way i can get any form of charge process is by leaving barrybackup open/connected, even then tho its only a slow charge.
Heres what lsusb gives:
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The two outputs are identical; and according to them the computer is sending 500mA out the port as desired. So, if your 7100 is empty (out of battery), you plug it in and run bcharge -- does it actually charge up after an hour or two? Or, are you saying if you leave it plugged in for 2 hours that nothing happens, you get no charge at all?
According to your lsusb output, the computer is attempting to charge the device -- you sure the 7100 doesn't have some sort of OS flaw with the charging icon?
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03-29-2007, 08:58 AM
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I can get it to charge through windows or on the mains adaptor fine, but under linux it doesnt charge even after several hours of being connected with supposidly 500mA going to it. Is there any other way to check the usb output without cutting into some cables.
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03-29-2007, 12:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HuwSy
Is there any other way to check the usb output without cutting into some cables.
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I bet there is using a multimeter (or something like that?), but I'll admit I'm a n00b when it comes to things like this, sorry. I have never been very good at the electrical engineering aspect of life (or differnential equations, while we're at it :-/).
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04-11-2007, 07:27 AM
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I installed bcharge from the files on Sourceforge. It runs for about a second then charging stops?? I'm on ub untu fiesty fawn.
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04-11-2007, 07:44 AM
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Im thinking its something to do with Fiesty Fawn, cos it happens to me ever since i upgraded. I knnow the udev version is newer than expected which might have an effect. The .deb version sometimes charges if i connect the bb then remove it straight away remove it then connect it again straight away. How fast this is done effects the chances of this working in my experience. The CVS version doesnt seam to work atall for me at the moment. When i have more time il look into it more.
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04-11-2007, 07:06 PM
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Thanks HuSwy,
I'm stuck on the fence with M$ due to the Blackberry issues. If I can:
a) Charge it via USB &
b) Load applications
I would delete Windows off my drive. Right now, I've got an XP Guest on a Ubuntu host...and no connection.
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04-12-2007, 05:40 AM
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Barry Tools works in backing up and restoring under Feisty, however bcharge stopped working after I moved from Edgy to Feisty. The only way to load apps via computer is under windows, this cant even be done under mac yet, and syncronising with something like evolution is in progress but not there yet under linux. Best dual booting for the time being.
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04-12-2007, 08:06 PM
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Thanks for the help. I can survive with .jad files for now. But how do you do a backup and restore? I have not located that in the documentation...yet.
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04-13-2007, 03:27 AM
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You have to build btool then barrybackup from the sorce code available off sf.net then run barrybackup as root (or atleast sudo) Hopefully there will be .deb and .rpm versions of these when the next version is released.
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04-19-2007, 06:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Frey
I recently got my hands on a new 8800 Pearl, and tweaked the CVS version
of bcharge to work better with the Pearl. The CVS version of bcharge
has been broken for a while now, and I believe it is now fixed.
There are 3 ways to run bcharge now, with the Pearl:
bchargeWill change to 500mA, and switch idProduct mode from 0006 to 0004 (dual). bcharge -oWill change to 500mA and switch from 0006 to 0001 (classic) bcharge -dWill change to 500mA and switch from 0001 to 0004 (dual).
This is the behaviour I had hoped for earlier, but I tried to do it
automatically, which seems impossible, from just the USB data. I'm sure
if I talked to the device to get manufacturer, product strings, etc
I could do more checks, but that would make bcharge more complicated
than necessary. I think the above command line switches are a good balance.
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I personally haven't had a chance to test the new code yet.
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04-20-2007, 01:39 PM
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Don't forget those of us who hangs on every word from you, Rivviepop! If there's an RPM somewhere, I hope you will make it available to us!
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05-07-2007, 11:38 AM
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Yey BCharge works again for me. Not sure if its due to recent compilation from CVS (as i know v0.7 didnt work for me) or if its due to my move to Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon (cos Iv never got it to charge under Feisty Fawn)
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05-12-2007, 02:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ubuntuthinking
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I installed bcharge from the files on Sourceforge. It runs for about a second then charging stops?? I'm on ub untu fiesty fawn.
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I have the same situation...
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05-15-2007, 11:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by foczq
I have the same situation...
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dammit, i hate me-too-ing...
ME TOO!
feisty, charge icon stays on for about 2 seconds...
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