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jungleland · 10-15-2006, 10:34 AM

will the 4.2 OS upgrade add GPS functionality in these devices? Or do they need an actual PHYSICAL gps chip (meaning it's not something that an OS upgrade can address)?

tsac · 10-15-2006, 11:35 AM

would be nice to have. did you see this on a release somewhere? I would take it even if it required a GPS module attached.

Stinsonddog · 10-15-2006, 12:43 PM

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You still need the BT puck. Might have BB maps so won't need other software though.

jungleland · 10-15-2006, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Stinsonddog

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You still need the BT puck. Might have BB maps so won't need other software though.

that's the case now (with OS 4.1)....OS 4.2 might enable the GPS functionality though, that was my question..

cmhn12 · 10-15-2006, 07:13 PM

well from what i am told by RIM, there is already an GPS chip in the 8700 and all you will need is the 4.2 OS to unlock it...thats what RIM has told me...

jungleland · 10-15-2006, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cmhn12

well from what i am told by RIM, there is already an GPS chip in the 8700 and all you will need is the 4.2 OS to unlock it...thats what RIM has told me...

so, that being said, an external GPS receiver would not be required (network dependent of course)???

jibi · 10-15-2006, 08:45 PM

Umm. You talked to the wrong people at RIM.

OS 4.2 does not enable some secret GPS functionality built in to the device. It does not have such a chip, aside from 9-1-1 LBS functionality (which 100% of the phones produced for consumption in the United States within the last 3-5 years has this same "chip"). It still requires BlackBerry Maps and a BT puck for GPS to work.

Is this functionality really already available for OS 4.1 on the 8700? I may have missed it, I suppose (or really just didn't care). I was under the impression that BlackBerry Maps was for OS 4.2 and above, but I could be mistaken.

When you open up BlackBerry Maps on an 8700 running OS 4.2 and click on Start GPS, it says the following:

"You must pair your BlackBerry with a Bluetooth enabled GPS device."

Hope that spells it out fairly clearly on it's support for the functionality.

Stinsonddog · 10-15-2006, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cmhn12

well from what i am told by RIM, there is already an GPS chip in the 8700 and all you will need is the 4.2 OS to unlock it...thats what RIM has told me...

No such deal, 8800 will be the first.

cmhn12 · 10-15-2006, 10:14 PM

hmmm welll thats good to know

....maybe it was non N America units that have some more extra parts in them? who knows...only the full OS 4.2 will tell im suure

Pizzle · 10-16-2006, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by cmhn12

maybe it was non N America units that have some more extra parts in them?

Still wrong.

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who knows

Jibi does.

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only the full OS 4.2 will tell im suure

That's what he's running. As are a few others. It doesn't work. In the future, please just admit that you're wrong and/or aren't sure what you're talking about, as opposed to fueling speculation and nonsense about something that's not true.

There's no mystery behind GPS and the production 8700-series. Please stop swirling rumors that it "might" have that capability. It doesn't.

jungleland · 10-16-2006, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Pizzle

Still wrong.

Jibi does.

That's what he's running. As are a few others. It doesn't work. In the future, please just admit that you're wrong and/or aren't sure what you're talking about, as opposed to fueling speculation and nonsense about something that's not true.

There's no mystery behind GPS and the production 8700-series. Please stop swirling rumors that it "might" have that capability. It doesn't.

well shizzle my nizzle...you just ruined my morning...

Pizzle · 10-16-2006, 09:10 AM

People come here for good information. I'll never have an issue with a question asked, so long as when good information is given, and the question is answered, people leave it as that. Just because it's not the answer you want, doesn't mean it's not true.

Bad information sucks, and ruins the integrity of the forums.

cmhn12 · 10-16-2006, 10:41 AM

well i wasnt trying to ruin anything...and i do know what a few people are running 4.2....just voicing that i was told by a top level programer with RIM. i very much love the fourms but this kinda beating ppl over the head beacuse other people including MODs think that we should all be a perfect poster is realyl stupid and if you ask me that ruins the forms.!...again just voicing my thoughts thanks!

jungleland · 10-16-2006, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cmhn12

well i wasnt trying to ruin anything...and i do know what a few people are running 4.2....just voicing that i was told by a top level programer with RIM. i very much love the fourms but this kinda beating ppl over the head beacuse other people including MODs think that we should all be a perfect poster is realyl stupid and if you ask me that ruins the forms.!...again just voicing my thoughts thanks!

You won't hear me argue with your point...I DO feel the MODS and other board members are VERY VERY critical of others. They do not use great tact when pointing out something, they are very direct and very insensitive at times. That being said, they often do have points, they just need to work on the delivery.

cmhn12 · 10-16-2006, 10:48 AM

very true, i have never seen a post really were i really disagreed but just wow how they say it is not the best way to, and makes you wonder why they feel they need to be so heavy handed

Pizzle · 10-16-2006, 02:12 PM

For the record...

Please don't confuse brevity for lack of appropriate delivery. We're trying to get to as many posts as possible, as fast as possible...something that has made this forum great. Quick, reliable information. Sorry if we can't always sugar coat every response. Sometimes, I just post as quick as possible so I can answer a question and get back to work. I don't really have time to make my post pretty all the time.

Maybe if I put a bunch of cool smilies n stuff, that will make it look like I'm nicer...

^^^That last part was a joke. No need to take it personally.^^^

dhendriksen · 10-16-2006, 02:34 PM

Stupid question but is OS 4.2 available then? If not, when?

SilverSurfer95 · 10-16-2006, 02:54 PM

Nice thread. Going straight to the point like Pizzle:

Does anyone have a link for 4.2? Direct enough

Pizzle · 10-16-2006, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dhendriksen

Stupid question but is OS 4.2 available then? If not, when?

- Not yet.
- Soon...probably before the end of the year.

Pizzle · 10-16-2006, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverSurfer95

Nice thread. Going stright to the point like Pizzle:

Does anyone have a link for 4.2? Direct enough

It's not available for public consumption yet. It's still in beta. And believe me, you don't want it yet. It's messy.

Folks, please don't turn this into a "when's 4.2 coming out" thread, or we'll need to close it. There are already a zillion of those, and trust me when I say that when it's released, it will be all OVER the forums. Thanks.

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