[dozment]

Originally Posted by wuberry

I'll admit it's VERY hard to follow this thread, so if the answer to my question is here ... I'll apologize in advance.


Was it ever determined if the new reduced-price unlimited plan applies to people on BES? If it does, what's that purpose of the current $45/month plan. Is it just going away (hopefully)?

I think the opinion that wins this in the thread is that BES will stay at the $45 rate, but I think it's probably best to wait until they put out the public announcement and see what they really have to offer.

[stripesace]

Yeah, I'm hoping its a price reduction across the board, 15 bucks difference to use a BES is kind ridiculous.

[Seattle18]

I don't see why it matters if you use a BES. How does that impact Cingular? If anything, it lightens their load!

[bigboy]

Originally Posted by Seattle18

Check out these screenshots I just took. Look at number 2 under POP Download. You can set Gmail to either keep it in the inbox after being pulled by pop, delete it, or archive it. So I guess the issue has been fixed.


http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...turedata78.png http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...ata1315377.png

Thanks -- that setting does look new. I'll have to try it again to see if it actually works.

EDIT: Nope. Still doesn't work. Guess I'll stick with Yahoo.

[Winston S.]

Originally Posted by bigboy

If a pop client pulls mail from my gmail account, the other pop clients I use don't see it. It's as if gmail is marking something read for me, which I don't want -- shouldn't the client be the one evaluating if something should be downloaded?

I know my requirements are a corner case, but I haven't seen this issue with any other pop implementations.

That's why I call it braindead.

I'm not sure if this is the same, as you seem to have more POP knowledge than me, but when I receive something from my gmail on my BB it is left on their server and I can still pull it down from Outlook 2003 marked as unopened.

[Seattle18]

Originally Posted by bigboy

EDIT: Nope. Still doesn't work. Guess I'll stick with Yahoo.

It does work. I just tested it three times. When I POP my Gmail account to my Apple Mail inbox, the Gmail copy remains in the inbox, unread. If yours does not, then it is not Gmail, it is your email program's setting. You must have it set to something like Remove From Server after it checks the Gmail acct, or you do not have a box checked that reads something like Leave Copy on Server. It's not the Gmail side though.

[gadgetjunkies]

Originally Posted by Seattle18

I don't see why it matters if you use a BES. How does that impact Cingular? If anything, it lightens their load!

I use EMM as my BES. How does Cingular know what I use? Begs the question of why wouldn't my price drop to the $29.99?

[bigboy]

Originally Posted by Seattle18

It does work. I just tested it three times. When I POP my Gmail account to my Apple Mail inbox, the Gmail copy remains in the inbox, unread. If yours does not, then it is not Gmail, it is your email program's setting. You must have it set to something like Remove From Server after it checks the Gmail acct, or you do not have a box checked that reads something like Leave Copy on Server. It's not the Gmail side though.

The copy of the e-mail still resides in the Gmail inbox unread -- I can see it on my browser. However the second pop client does not see it.

Your test is missing a second pop client trying to download the message (try downloading the messages on Apple Mail on either two different machines or accounts). Viewing the message from the Gmail browser interface does not count as a second pop client.

[bigboy]

Originally Posted by Winston S.

I'm not sure if this is the same, as you seem to have more POP knowledge than me, but when I receive something from my gmail on my BB it is left on their server and I can still pull it down from Outlook 2003 marked as unopened.

Are you forwarding your Gmail or are you accessing Gmail via BIS accounts?

[jdjleo]

Originally Posted by dozment

I think the opinion that wins this in the thread is that BES will stay at the $45 rate, but I think it's probably best to wait until they put out the public announcement and see what they really have to offer.

Seems to be the question of the day,

[stripesace]

How does Tmo differentiate between BES and BIS users, becasue you cant sign up for a BIS plan and use BES. You suddenly upgrade and you can do enterprise activations.

[byron]

Originally Posted by Steve

Wirelessly posted (Cingular-Blue 7290: BlackBerry7290/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/101)



I don't know if this is related, but isn't everything by Google still in Beta?
Is Yahoo?

Steve

lol. true, but i'll take a beta gmail over hotmail/livemail/yahoo any day.

[EricaJ1074]

From my experience, I just called a CSR and asked to be put on one of the BIS plans. If you ask for a certain plan, they will sign u up for it. However, even if you are NOT on a BES, you still get the BES Activation icon on the home screen, which I don't understand why. I hide mine. Anyone know why this icon shows up even if you're not on BES? I don't plan on changing plans until needed.

[Winston S.]

Originally Posted by bigboy

Are you forwarding your Gmail or are you accessing Gmail via BIS accounts?

I am accessing my gmail via a BIS account.

[bigboy]

Originally Posted by Winston S.

I am accessing my gmail via a BIS account.

I meant if you are having Gmail forward your mail to your BIS account or have set up BIS to access your e-mail via POP.... Sorry for the confusion.

Anyway, sorry to everyone else to go on this tangent. I'll stop here.

[rollerbones]

I see this topic has changed into a yahoo/gmail how to topic

[Winston S.]

Originally Posted by bigboy

I meant if you are having Gmail forward your mail to your BIS account or have set up BIS to access your e-mail via POP.... Sorry for the confusion.

Anyway, sorry to everyone else to go on this tangent. I'll stop here.

I have BIS setup to access my Gmail via POP I believe.

[TmoTech]

T-mo does charge more for standalone bb data, ten dollars more, so that isnt bad..

[digital/blasphemy]

Originally Posted by stripesace

How does Tmo differentiate between BES and BIS users, becasue you cant sign up for a BIS plan and use BES. You suddenly upgrade and you can do enterprise activations.

your account must be provisioned for Enterprise service

[Lex Luthor]

I just wish here in Canada BlackBerry data was cheaper on Rogers Wireless. $60/25MB w/ $7 per/MB over I wish I was a Cingular custie sometimes