[stupink]

Just can't figure it out.
Got the thing to work well and can do most things, but I can't work out how to delete text already in a box? because the BB curves 8320 delete key seems to function as an "undo" reversing the last change... if I "send text" i can easily add new infomation to a box or data area, but how can i remove what is already there??...... driving me nuts lol.. must be possible.

IE a box with my name as "stu" can easily be changed to "stuart" by adding "art" , but I cannot change "stuart" back to "stu" no matter what i try.

just useing the j2me vnc

[stupink]

finding it hard to believe no one else uses this excellent application? can't be the only one surely?

[0100010]

I've tried using it, but I can't get it to work (connect to the machine I am running VNC server on).

Connecting to the server through a browser or a VNC viewer app works fine otherwise, just not with this app on my BB.

If I try to type in the URL to the server in J2me VNC - there isn't enough space to fit the full URL. If I resolve the URL to the current WAN IP on the router in front of the server, when I use that IP in J2me VNC with either of the ports open for the service (5800 or 5900), it doesn't connect.

Not to hijack your thread - but I figured if I could it working on my BB, then maybe I could look into your question...

[stupink]

Hi, i'm actually pretty crap at this sort of thing but I will try to help you.

using the router ip will not work, because the router is not running the software so won't know what to do with the request.

here is how i got it working, you may have a different setup, but you hopefully will know what you do/don't need to change..

Set my PC to a fixed LAN IP (WAN should be same), Setup a "service" for vnc on the router with the relevant port number if default then 5900, then setup a firewall rule on the router for the "vnc" service i just setup to my "LAN IP" of "always allow" to ensure it forwards any requests.

Then, because I am not on a fixed IP on my router I signed up to www.DynDns.org and setup an account to give me a fixed host address, a nice short one that A. i could remember and B. would fit on the screen mine is the format XXXXXXX.XXXXXXXX.net and works fine.

Any software firewalls on the server then need the port opening also.

After resetting the router/pc and waiting 15mins for the dns stuff to sort itself out, it all then works nicely..

In the vnc bb program you go to options and set the mouse movement to 5, and set mouse to local cursor, and i find that stops any crash issues that I was orriginally having.


I hope that helps, I'm happy to try to help some more, but not sure I will be able to.

[revolutiongto]

I went and installed this app to play around with it. That is weird about the deleting though, I tried everything I could think of to delete text.

I'm thinking of one possibility might be if I could just figure out how to hold down the mouse button, then move the cursor to highlight the text. Once this is done, just type anything and send it and it would write over the highlighted segment I'd assume. Though the flaw in this plan is I'm not sure how to hold down the mouse button through j2me. If I figure it out I'll post later.


This might just be me, but this app seems just too annoying to use in my opinion on my blackberry at least. It seems best suited to only view a remote desktop, and not actually interact with it.

[stupink]

yeah i couldnt work out how to select either.. i did ponder about that... very random.. though it isnt a blackberry app as such so not too supprising.

I agree its limited use. but sometimes thats all thats needed. its really easy to check if downloads have finished and close programs, check for new emails, check people have not left you msn messages and read them if need be etc etc.. but to do anything "major" is pretty impossible. however i also keep a vnc viewer program on my usb keyfob, so once i see something i need to do, I just have to find a pc with net access

[stupink]

To "semi-answer" my own question..

"toggle control" (on)
Click the mouse in the box
"send text" send "a" (cntrl-a is "select all")
"toggle control" (off)
you can then send new text to over write..

This is good solution for a text box, but not great for editing an email where you would have to re-type the entire text lol.. but okay for a few words.

so still looking for an alternative.

perhaps someone knows a shortcut for the backspace key other than the key itself? alt-something or ctrl-somethign etc etc.

[0100010]

Thanks for the tips, I have shortened the URL I use for dynamic DNS so it will fit within the 24 character server name field limit on the BB, but I still cannot connect.

The specific error I get is :

Problem Connection to VNC Server.
net.rim.device.cldc.io.ippp.SocketBaseIOExcepti
on: Connection refused :connect

Ouside of J2me VNC, I can connect to the server just fine from anywhere else.

[revolutiongto]

Originally Posted by 0100010

Thanks for the tips, I have shortened the URL I use for dynamic DNS so it will fit within the 24 character server name field limit on the BB, but I still cannot connect.

Did you specify the exact port in your host setting? I.E. 252.324.234.342:5902

I found I couldn't connect until I remembered to add the port at the end.

[stupink]

yeah the java assumes 5900 so you will need to add that if you're not using that port.

Sounds silly but are you sure you have the right password on the BB? as its all case sensitive etc.. easy to get that sort of thing wrong on a bb i find.

[0100010]

Hmm, I did notice it auto capatilized the address, I wonder if it's doing the same with the password?

[0100010]

And yes I'm using the default port of 5900, tried the address with and without the port and also tried both the IP and the URL.

[stupink]

Try changing the password to start with a capital lol. mine does anyway so i didnt notice any problem.

[0100010]

Changing the pw so the 1st character is capitalized doesn't help.

But - I do find that when I use a browser to connect to the server on the java port of 5800, the applet pop up on the PC has the URL with a ":0" appended on the end - and the java viewer on a PC also gets the connection refused message.

I'm thinking something is up with the VNC server software - will keep playing with it today.

[0100010]

I think I figured it out. Seems to be the proxy servers at work, which are also in effect for BES is causing my issue.

When I connect to the VNC server with a java viewer in a PC browser or using a PC VNC client, if I am not going through the corporate proxies, I can connect just fine.

If I place the PC on the corporate network and go through the proxies, I cannot connect with a java viewer in a PC browser or using a PC VNC client. The browser java error is exactly what I get in J2me VNC on the BB.

Since the BB is on BES, its traffic goes through the proxies and as a result I cannot connect to the VNC server.

Not fun, as I used to be able to use VNC on my previous corp phone w/o issue (Motorola Q9C).

[stupink]

I don't know much about BES to be able to help, im assuming you can't ask the tech guy to open the ports for you? as im expecting you're not supposed to be using it for that lol.

[0100010]

Yeah - could ask them, but I'm fairly certain I know what the response would be... Even though the VNC server itself is not on the corporate network, but rather on an independent internet connection in my office, which additional to the corp lan ports.

[stupink]

do you have any other serivces on the BeS? could you set the vnc to an already open port for example ;)