[erichall1]

Originally Posted by akosnitzky

So if you are on BIS, you dont need MDS?

Correct. MDS is only used for BES.

[akosnitzky]

Okay, I will give it a shot. Thank you

[fkjr2]

Originally Posted by John Clark

Themes would be added back if you run application loader...I think that's what he was getting at.

no it does not add back the themes via app loader!
I got stuck and am forced to do a re install of os.

[fkjr2]

Originally Posted by berrycoder

Thanks for trying BerryCoder apps.
We are currently composing FAQs and more complete procedure with picture.

For now I'll try to answer some questions regrading the MaxMem app.

MaxMem will always ask first for every cod that will be deleted so if you are not sure about it you can click 'no' and go to the next cod. This also applys to Delete Themes. When you click Remove Themes, it will ask you if you have back up the BB and the disclaimer thing, you can say yes to both. Next, MaxMem will ask you one by one the theme cod that you want to delete. So just press 'no' for the theme that you want to keep.

To restore all the cod files that have been deleted, you don't have to reinstall OS. you can just connect it to Desktop Manager and run the application loader.

Thanks.

no it does not - I connected thru DM and nothing gets re-installed!

[fkjr2]

Originally Posted by Darmichar

Just ran a test here and what I'm seeing is not what is presented.
I did the following:

1. Backed up my BB using Desktop Manager.
2. Ran MaxMem and removed VAD, MDS (I'm not on a BES), Media, and 2 of the default Themes (I actualy use the Today theme occasionally).
3. Did a battery pull/reset.
4. Restored the backup I initially made.
5. Did a battery pull/reset.

Everything that was removed by MaxMem DID NOT return with the restore. Maybe I did something wrong with the backup/restore, but not that I can see.

It's really no big deal to me, I didn't use any of the stuff that got removed. Just a heads up to those that are messing around that may delete something they actually need.

yes confirmed! I tried to wipe and restore because I needed to get back the today theme but no luck - it seems that MaxMem Permenantly does the removals !

[fkjr2]

Originally Posted by shaun27612

Great app, but be very very sure you have a full working backup of your device prior to running it.

backups dont matter - I did that and tried to restore after a wipe and it didnt restore to factory state - the MaxMem removal was permanent!

[John Clark]

The regular backup does NOT backup any applications or modules that MaxMem removes. That's all done with application loader. it's the same as if you manually delete an application from your device. A restore doesn't bring that back. However, if you have the OS installed to your PC and you run application loader, the .cod's will come back.

[erichall1]

Originally Posted by John Clark

The regular backup does NOT backup any applications or modules that MaxMem removes. That's all done with application loader. it's the same as if you manually delete an application from your device. A restore doesn't bring that back. However, if you have the OS installed to your PC and you run application loader, the .cod's will come back.

I believe I may be starting to grasp this. So from what you are saying, if you haven't used DM App Loader to load an OS then what berrycoder claims that the App Loader will restore what was removed (themes, cods etc.) is impossible. For instance in my own case with a new Pearl since a have yet to load a new OS everything deleted by MaxMem cannot be restored by App Loader as the OS is not there due to it's not being loaded by the App Loader.

Thanks it is all clear to me now. Seems to have nothing much to do with a data backup at all. And the data backup is only to restore settings and data like address book and bookmarks and such in the event you lose those and the backup has nothing to do at all with restoring the items removed by MaxMem as only the App Loader can do that and only then when the App Loader was used to load your OS. If I am incorrect on any of this someone please let Me know.

Question: can I just copy my OS as it is from my phone in it's modified current form to a file and have that to use with App Loader? This would be much easier than starting from scratch. In other words can I sort of back up my current OS which is on the phone now?

[Darmichar]

I went here: (the ten post limit for links is counter productive)

BlackBerry - BlackBerry Desktop and Device Software Download Sites

and downloaded the OS for my Curve.

[rietherll]

I will be getting this!!!!

[fkjr2]

Originally Posted by John Clark

The regular backup does NOT backup any applications or modules that MaxMem removes. That's all done with application loader. it's the same as if you manually delete an application from your device. A restore doesn't bring that back. However, if you have the OS installed to your PC and you run application loader, the .cod's will come back.

john, so to prevent this again, instead of doing a regular backup thru DM, would I open "advanced" and copy all the files from the device (on right) to box on the left and save to file?

Thanks

[John Clark]

You cannot backup the .cod's that you are removing with this application. The reason the developer suggests a backup is so that you don't lose any of your personal data from the device should you have to reload the OS.

erichall1 above has it figured out. You are deleting OS files and those can't be backed up. They can be reloaded using DM and the OS installed on the PC but not backed up.

[ehambra]

Is there a way to restore the “New Folder” Icon?

Thanks!!

[John Clark]

If you remove preinstalled wallpapers (which I recommend as they take a ton of space) then no, those go away too.

[nefi]

Very nice app, thanks for the find.

[erichall1]

Originally Posted by ehambra

Is there a way to restore the xxx8220;New Folderxxx8221; Icon?

Thanks!!

Just curious, but I have gotten rid of every possibly preloaded image on my Pearl and haven't missed any of it. I am wondering what possible use a New Folder Icon could be good for? I mean you can always make new folders anywhere you want be it homescreen, bookmarks, Pics whatever. So what's the use of an icon to for creating a new folder other than clutter? I just created a new Folder on my homescreen just to make sure it still works. Yep it works, simply pressed menu key and made new folder. Don't get what your issue could possibly be.

[John Clark]

There are different icons for folders. Those are included with the preloaded wallpapers .cod.

[erichall1]

I guess I sort of see it now as the name of the new folders on the homescreen only appear at the bottom of the screen when scrolled over.

[Kamau]

It's all right. I probably would have gotten a better result if I had not ran the old fashion Mem Opt this morning.
The only thing I can see is it's probably faster to do. But from what I've read in this forum, I think I'll stick to the old ways. I have more control that way.

[fencepost]

A question and a comment:

First, does removing the preinstalled media include removing the built-in ringtones? I can try it and find out, but I'd prefer to keep them without having to reload the OS.

Second, I removed VAD, MDS, and some themes (not the fallback or T-Mobile Zen) and I've noticed that I now never make it to EDGE or UMA - just to edge and uma. Data connectivity still seems to be working though - display issue?

EDIT: I got back to uppercase connections later in the evening, so I'm not sure what happened earlier, possibly network issues.