[rughopper]

T Mobile is telling me that with the 8100 and no text msg plan I will be charged for each IM using Jivetalk, is that true?

[jeremyckitching]

No. If you don't have a data plan you will be, as JiveTalk use data.

[rughopper]

I'm on BES and I told them that but they stated otherwise. Thanks for your response Jeremy.

[John Clark]

Yep, JiveTalk uses your data plan, not your sms plan. The included IM program with the 8100 did use sms. That's likely where their confusion is.

[blakeatl]

Yep data. I use jivetalk all the time and I don't get charged.

[ezrunner]

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8800/4.2.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)

Same here JT all the time no extra charges

[t i z j o n]

What if you used your wifi to connect to your internet router connection with no data plan, and signed on jivetalk..will it also then still charge your im's as text messages? (currently on a tmobile plan)

[nedzalife]

Originally Posted by t i z j o n

What if you used your wifi to connect to your internet router connection with no data plan, and signed on jivetalk..will it also then still charge your im's as text messages? (currently on a tmobile plan)

Not as text msgs, but possbily data.... My research on this one with my old 8320 showed me that without somesort of data plan, it would not connect. JiveTalk tries to connect through BIS / BES initially, then tries TCP. If you don't have a BB plan, you can use a TCP plan (like the $5/5MB plan Rogers used to have). If you don't have any of these data plan service books, using Wifi alone will not work, as the data route checks with the carrier's APN before going out onto the net... So since it checks with the carrier's APN, your carrier can still track your data charges if you don't have a data plan (for Rogers, it was $0.05/Kb)a

Now keep in mind my testing was with v1.03 of JiveTalk. Now that they have released v1.05 that supports wifi, I do not know how the data connection path has changed (if at all). Maybe someone else in the forum can fill you in with this info, as JiveTalk was building v1.05 w/ wifi support to be able to use the software without any data plan and just use the wifi portion of the BB.

Hope this helps.