[serpico]

Walter Mossberg's column in the WSJ today reviewed the Q. Like many people, he liked the hardware, but not the software - he found it took multiple steps to do tasks that should be easier. People have been saying this about MS' mobile OS since the days of the original Palm Pilot; this is almost a decade ago. When will MS finally get it?

[hnsimpson]

Originally Posted by serpico

When will MS finally get it?

I think MS will change only when someone pushes an OS that is competitive, both functionally (like Blackberry's) and in proliferation (like Palm).

I may be ignorant on the facts (and if I am I hope to be corrected) but why won't Blackberry license their OS to other manufacturers? I understand wanting to control the manufacturing market, but we are into the 4th or 5th generation of Blackberrys...it reminds me of the Apple business model versus the PC.

-Simpson

[strobate]

One of the selling points of BB is it's an end-to-end solution. Third parties can install BlackBerry connect, as Palm and Nokia have done.

[jnyost]

I absolutely love the voice quality on my 7130e. It is by far one of the best phones I've ever had. Like I said.... Phone.... My biggest complaints are the battery life and the pda functionality. The BB sucks bad when it comes to PDA functionality. I also carry a 7250 for work for our email and corporate applications. I hate it. I'd take the 7130 over the 7250 any day. I only use my 7130 as a phone, pda, browsing, and tethering. If I can find a device that offers a better pda side while still offering good voice, I'll throw my 7130 in a drawer. While the Q has caught my eye, I don't think it will give me what I want. I've come so close to adding a PDA to my collection just to try and bring a little more organiztion back to my life. Maybe I'll try the 700p.

Originally Posted by junior1790

If you go over to qusers.com you will probably find some helpful info there, just keep in mind that it's such a new device and those people there have been salivationg for them for almost a year, they are a little biased....

The same can be said of here. People here think the BB is the greatest thing since slice bread. They think the Treo and all others are crap. Truth be told, there are millions who also think BBs are crap.

There's my rant. Like an earlier user stated, there is no perfect device. I don't see a single device in my near future.

Jared

[arche3]

I will be using a "Q" "goodlinked" for a couple weeks starting tomorrow. See how it stacks up to my 8700c. If it is comparable I will ditch the berry till the 3G (UMTS) GSM berries come out. I have to admit, after a day of EVDO browsing on the "Q" the thing is growing on me.

Roger

[junior1790]

Don't be fooled, it's weak at best...

[serpico]

Originally Posted by junior1790

Don't be fooled, it's weak at best...

Why, because it's not instant email?

[hcheun]

Originally Posted by serpico

Why, because it's not instant email?

Originally Posted by junior1790

Don't be fooled, it's weak at best...

No because Junior is right.. It's week because of winblows mobile hahaha

but seriously, i've tried it out, it's great, but like all the other BB users who tried it, the god damn thing is not thumb scroll friendly, think trying to hold a 2 Liter bottle in one hand, and trying to scroll something that doesn't work half the time.

Plus when i was testing it out, it crashed.

Go figure. Otherwise, it is great for those who want evdo and Vcast, but even the typing can't compare to a Crackberry!

[junior1790]

I dont mean to be vague, just scroll up a couple of post's and I substantiate my rant's. I gave it a legit TRY but IMHO it cant compare...

[JamesR]

Originally Posted by hnsimpson

I may be ignorant on the facts (and if I am I hope to be corrected) but why won't Blackberry license their OS to other manufacturers? I understand wanting to control the manufacturing market, but we are into the 4th or 5th generation of Blackberrys...it reminds me of the Apple business model versus the PC.

RIM is willing to license their OS to other manufacturers. The issue, as always, is price.

[serpico]

Originally Posted by junior1790

I dont mean to be vague, just scroll up a couple of post's and I substantiate my rant's. I gave it a legit TRY but IMHO it cant compare...

Got it; agree that you gave the Q a fair try. I thought you were specifically referring to Goodlink on the Q.

[jlinca]

So far, I agree with all the Q reviews around it being different but in some ways better, some ways not to my BB (7250). The one possible show stopper for me so far is that when in a call, pressing the escape key does not end the call. Worse, it leaves the call connected and takes you to the home screen where your minutes continue to tick down until you remember its not your BB. To end a call, you have to either bring your thumb down off the scroll wheel (natural position holding the phone) and wrap it to the front and press the red button (akward) OR use two hands (gasp). Did the engineers even TRY a Blackberry - this is worse than even the cut and paste issue.

I'm guessing I can edit the home screen using some third party app or find a theme with a home page set-up that is icon based so I can get to all the features using the scroll wheel - like a BB.

Haven't had the crashing issues but I've also stayed away from the media player features (figured if it causes problems, I've lived without it this long...) Batter life certainly seems to be an issue but given the quality of the screen, its not a suprise to me. The backlight comes on just about always when using the phone. If my BB did that, I'm sure the battery would be gone too. I'll find some way to improve that in "options" somewhere...

So far - I feel like I cheeted on my long time girlfriend with Jessica Simpson and now we are living together . Oh, and she laughs like Fran Dresher ...

[SmokinV10]

I just switched from my Cingular 8700C to Verizon service and got a Motorola Q. The sound quality is WAY better. Like most of the reviews the BB does have some advantages. its easier to delete emails. There are no programmable (that I know if) keys. You can not use the alpha keys as speed dial buttons. The bluetooth does not seem to work as well with my car's built in system (does not display the signal strength like my BB did on the GPS screen). It does however have good voice recognition software, the phone is smaller, their desktop sychronization software seems to be almost as good as the BB desktop manager. After having a blackberry for the last 3 years, this is going to be a change, but so far it isnt as bad as everyone says it is. I actually like it.

[whsbuss]

Another good read/review on the Q

http://money.cnn.com/2006/06/22/tech...tune/index.htm

[dlsolo]

I was playing around with one in Circuit City the other day and I personally think that the software/OS is slow. The graphics are vivid and all but it's just not as responsive as my 8700. Maybe it's something that a OS update would help, maybe. But it's thin, looks good, but can't see jumping off the BB wagon anytime soon. IMO