[hookem12387]

Is there anyway at all to have pop for BIS and IMAP for a desktop client? I'm guessing no, but I'd really love it

[coastieboy00]

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Originally Posted by hookem12387

Is there anyway at all to have pop for BIS and IMAP for a desktop client? I'm guessing no, but I'd really love it

This is my current. setup. BIS is on POP3 and Apple Mail is IMAP. No issue.

[bbkingrocks]

Originally Posted by hookem12387

Is there anyway at all to have pop for BIS and IMAP for a desktop client? I'm guessing no, but I'd really love it

Not sure this is what you're asking, but if you leave the password blank when setting up the BIS account, you will see the option to enter the settings manually. I think you can enter the POP mail server rather than have the settings automatically set for you.

[whsbuss]

Originally Posted by coastieboy00

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This is my current. setup. BIS is on POP3 and Apple Mail is IMAP. No issue.

I'm setup the same way but do have connect issues with Outlook to my google hosted domain via IMAP. Sometimes it just times out.

[eroq]

Just wanted to chime in that almost all of the issues I have read above relating to problems with IMAP are the same issues I have experienced trying to get it to work with Outlook (2007).

IMAP for Gmail is just too Beta(ish), in my opinion and we all should stop wasting our time troubleshooting...

[eroq]

If, as I have read over and over here and as I am currently experiencing, emails are being gathered before being delivered and then periodically sent, this is, to me, a major problem.

One of the reasons I got the BB is it's seeming solid performance as a work tool. Why should we accept that this lag occurs?

What's more, I am seeing much longer lagtimes. If I am completely off Outlook on all my accounts/machines, then, the lag seems to taper off.

It sounds like there is more support for Yahoo then Gmail (or, at least, Yahoo is supporting BB, syncing, etc. more). As an experiment, I am forwarding Gmails to a Yahoo account to see if they relay faster to the BB. I just set it up and will have to wait a few before it kicks in.

[Roo Zilla]

I am having no problems with Gmail delivery, and that's with both regular Gmail and Google Apps. I usually get it within seconds of sending and I've tested it myself because I tend to send myself a lot of emails with things to remember. I also use IMAP with Outlook and again, works fine for me. At the moment, yahoo is better in the sense that it sychs reads with Blackberry, but I find that Gmail is quite a but faster. I usually receive Gmail within 5 seconds, but with yahoo, it can be as long as 3-4 minutes, which isn't bad at all, but still..... I presume Google will eventually get on the ball and allow synching Gmail with Blackberry. I personally prefer Gmail because it doesn't send spam signatures and also because I got in early (within weeks of them having it), I got a easy to remember name.

[airjan23]

Based on the IMAP problems and only one-way syncing, would you recommend just switching back to POP? Also, has anyone else noticed a bundling of messages received on the BB rather than each one coming in individually?

[whsbuss]

I'm seeing better push response for gmail today. Getting message within 20 seconds. However, the 1-way read sync doesn't seem to be working.

I have my google hosted account setup in Outlook 2003 via IMAP. After I read a message in the BB it never updates. But deletes from the BB show up within 30 seconds. Strange. Hope google works out the kinks and give us 2-way sync like yahoo.

[airjan23]

Originally Posted by whsbuss

I'm seeing better push response for gmail today. Getting message within 20 seconds. However, the 1-way read sync doesn't seem to be working.

I have my google hosted account setup in Outlook 2003 via IMAP. After I read a message in the BB it never updates. But deletes from the BB show up within 30 seconds. Strange. Hope google works out the kinks and give us 2-way sync like yahoo.

Seems like my messages are showing up every 19 minutes, 1:19, 1:38, 1:57 etc. Is anyone else having a similar issue and would disabling IMAP and re-enabling POP fix this?

[whsbuss]

Originally Posted by airjan23

Seems like my messages are showing up every 19 minutes, 1:19, 1:38, 1:57 etc. Is anyone else having a similar issue and would disabling IMAP and re-enabling POP fix this?

If you're using IMAP in the BIS, then yes. Instant push email for gmail is only supported via POP.

[AnthroMatt]

Originally Posted by coastieboy00

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This is my current. setup. BIS is on POP3 and Apple Mail is IMAP. No issue.

No issues with Apple Mail on IMAP and BIS on POP? Apple Mail always stops downloading new messages from the GMail IMAP account.

I have read of this problem, but everyone's solution is to delete the acct. and re-add it. BUt all that does is fix it for a few hours. Sooner or later the GMail IMAP stops being received by Apple Mail.

[JOVE]

So... I've decided to use imap, gmail only on my BIS. Just to see the full functionality of it. Here is what I've found:

Yes, you can delete from BB and instantly Outlook & Gmail automatically archive the email.

If you archive from gmail or Outlook, it will not delete from you BB, ***RIGHT AWAY*** It does however, delete the email from your BB given a few hours or so. I've seen it go for 3 and 16 hours before it actually deletes off the BB.

When I receive emails on BB, it doesn't feel like it's polling every 15 minutes. I had a treo and it had a set time exactly 5 (you could set it to 5 minutes) minutes later you knew you were getting mail. On the BB sometimes I'll get like 3 or 4 messages all at once, so I figure, maybe it just polled and that's why they all came suddenly. But then, 3 minutes later i'll get another one. When I look at the time sent on the email, it was sent right then! Like instant push.

Still, if I send from BB email program, nothing shows up in my sent folder on the Gmail server. But this is easily fixed by sending from Gmail app for BBs.

To me it sounds like the two-way sync technology IS there, but needs to be worked on. Can't wait for that day to come!

[bbkingrocks]

Originally Posted by JOVE

So... I've decided to use imap, gmail only on my BIS. Just to see the full functionality of it. Here is what I've found:

Yes, you can delete from BB and instantly Outlook & Gmail automatically archive the email.

If you archive from gmail or Outlook, it will not delete from you BB, ***RIGHT AWAY*** It does however, delete the email from your BB given a few hours or so. I've seen it go for 3 and 16 hours before it actually deletes off the BB.

When I receive emails on BB, it doesn't feel like it's polling every 15 minutes. I had a treo and it had a set time exactly 5 (you could set it to 5 minutes) minutes later you knew you were getting mail. On the BB sometimes I'll get like 3 or 4 messages all at once, so I figure, maybe it just polled and that's why they all came suddenly. But then, 3 minutes later i'll get another one. When I look at the time sent on the email, it was sent right then! Like instant push.

Still, if I send from BB email program, nothing shows up in my sent folder on the Gmail server. But this is easily fixed by sending from Gmail app for BBs.

To me it sounds like the two-way sync technology IS there, but needs to be worked on. Can't wait for that day to come!

Hard to believe it might be carrier specific, but all my BB sent emails show up in my Gmail Imap sent items folder.

[JOVE]

WEIRD!!! I have sprint and have both a normal Gmail and a Google Apps gmail account and neither of them show up in my Gmail Sent Folder on the server...

[rivviepop]

Originally Posted by JOVE

WEIRD!!! I have sprint and have both a normal Gmail and a Google Apps gmail account and neither of them show up in my Gmail Sent Folder on the server...

Put your own email address into the 'BCC' field in your BIS account setup for the GMail/Apps Hosted and it'll start saving a copy to your Sent.

[JOVE]

forgive me if I am wrong. but doesn't that just send a copy to yourself into the inbox? I would rather have a message that looks like it was sent and put into the sent folder. that way in gmail you can also see the threaded messages that go along with it.

[rivviepop]

Originally Posted by JOVE

forgive me if I am wrong. but doesn't that just send a copy to yourself into the inbox? I would rather have a message that looks like it was sent and put into the sent folder. that way in gmail you can also see the threaded messages that go along with it.

I wouldn't have said it if it didn't work - I do it as well. Google has some sort of special hooks that recognize the BCC coming from BIS and routes it into Sent, just try it for yourself - takes all of 2 minutes.

[whsbuss]

GMail IMAP is just not ready for prime time. Hope RIM includes hooks for instant email and 2-way sync soon.

[JOVE]

Update: seems like they are working on something...

Still using IMAP only on gmail.

Now when I delete from gmail server, outlook or gmail app, email deletes from blackberry within 5 minutes.

I know its not instant but it is a step up from 3 to 16 hours that it was originally taking.

Anyone else find these results?