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rivviepop · 10-26-2007, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by unknownvirus

i actually used to use this as a solutuon for some email setups when i used to do blackberry support for ATT
someone wanna give it a try? im too lazy

Looks like the idea is dead in the water -- you can get quick & easy free IMAP accounts from Fastmail.fm (kinda sweet, actually). The new IMAP account plugs right into BIS without any problems, but then when you try and edit the account you cannot change the 'username' field in the web UI. arrgh. Oh well, it was a good idea.

Jaime · 10-26-2007, 04:25 PM

My hosted google email got imap. I deleted from BIS, disabled pop, enabled imap and reactivated the account. BIS enabled pop again.

Best,
Jaime

Casper TFG · 10-26-2007, 04:26 PM

Scuse my ignorance but does the IMAP functionality have any benefit for people wanting to use a Gmail account as a spam filter that forwards to their BB?

Or not?

I have become the human spam filter

Go daddy pop 3 (cant manually configure their filters in any way)
Apple Mail - at office (this kills the spam OK)
BB - on the road - gets all the spam...

rivviepop · 10-26-2007, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Casper TFG

Scuse my ignorance but does the IMAP functionality have any benefit for people wanting to use a Gmail account as a spam filter that forwards to their BB?

In a pure forwarding situation, not really - at that point IMAP is of no more use than POP because you're not actually managing the email on GMail, just using it as a passthru. The only way IMAP makes (or will make once they update BIS) a positive benefit is if you're actually using that email account to ... uh, "do" the email I guess you could say.

whsbuss · 10-26-2007, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaime

My hosted google email got imap. I deleted from BIS, disabled pop, enabled imap and reactivated the account. BIS enabled pop again.

Best,
Jaime

That's because RIM implemented goggle hosted domains in their BIS setup. It looks at the MX record, and if google, automatically setup the account as if it were Gmail including the notification server for push email.

We have to wait for RIM to implement (again) IMAP-IDLE before we get true IMAP functionality.

JGBerry · 10-26-2007, 10:29 PM

Gmail in Thunderbird with IMAP is sweet...but it has several kinks. it was a great first start but it definitely needs improvement.

veks · 10-27-2007, 03:09 PM

i just changed my settings from having pop and imap enabled to disabled. i noticed that my email took about 3 minutes to receive from the instantaneuos i had before.

i guess it works for some and for others it doesnt. just make sure you guys and gals still get your email...

onyx00 · 10-28-2007, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by whsbuss

We have to wait for RIM to implement (again) IMAP-IDLE before we get true IMAP functionality.

I agree; I believe this is exactly what the problem is. I was planning to call RIM and complain because on a previous RIM ticket they said "well Google doesn't support IMAP and that is why 2-way sync. doesn't work." So it seems a little stupid that now that Google supports IMAP, RIM is not set up properly to work with it...

I'll call RIM on Monday and see if I can get some more information.

whsbuss · 10-29-2007, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by onyx00

I agree; I believe this is exactly what the problem is. I was planning to call RIM and complain because on a previous RIM ticket they said "well Google doesn't support IMAP and that is why 2-way sync. doesn't work." So it seems a little stupid that now that Google supports IMAP, RIM is not set up properly to work with it...

I'll call RIM on Monday and see if I can get some more information.

Let us know how you make out.

mrking · 10-29-2007, 03:34 PM

hmmm, i have had a gmail account since back in the day. and yet no IMAP activation has been placed on it (not available in my options). I log out and log in. delete cookies. nothing.

I created a new account to test things out and that new account has access to IMAP controls.

WTF is up with that. existing users get screwed? Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

rivviepop · 10-29-2007, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mrking

WTF is up with that. existing users get screwed? Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

yup, same here - created a new user in my Hosted domain and that user has IMAP access right away, yet my existing one is still in limbo. :(

whsbuss · 10-29-2007, 04:51 PM

Interesting.... One gmail account has IMAP the other does not. And one hosted domain has it and the other doesn't.

JGBerry · 10-30-2007, 01:00 AM

if you read the Gmail blog, they didn't give IMAP functionality to all users instantly. they said they are doing it in stages etc. I have had Gmail since January 2007 and my accounts wasn't one of the first ones to get it, rather it was a day later. I'm not sure what their decision is based on when they choose which accounts are to be given IMAP functionality... maybe they base it off of if you use POP3 a lot? I know I used Gmail with both my Blackberry and with Mozilla Thunderbird. Maybe they knew that and made the decision based off that. Or...that could be totally wrong and they made the decision based off your inbox size... or...it could have just been totally random. I would give it a few more days b/c a friend of mine, who has had Gmail for a year or two, still doesn't have it.

peace

virgiliomi · 11-01-2007, 09:38 PM

Ok... My GMail IMAP and Blackberry experiences...

- Not all new messages are appearing on my Blackberry
- WHEN I get notified of a new message, it's usually about 5 min. or so after it actually arrived in my Gmail account
- When I read the message on my Blackberry, in less than a minute, it's marked as read on Gmail
- When I delete a message on my Blackberry and Mailbox, it's gone from my Gmail account in less than a minute
- This also applies for taking an item that has been read and marking it as unread.
- Haven't tried status changes on Gmail Web -> Blackberry.
- Haven't messed with folders or anything of the sort... the folders (labels) that are already in my Gmail account don't seem to show up on my Blackberry.

I'm attributing the problems to Gmail's growing pains... and hope they'll eventually be fixed. In the meantime, I think I may go back to POP3... at least until the IMAP issues are ironed out.

whsbuss · 11-02-2007, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by virgiliomi

Ok... My GMail IMAP and Blackberry experiences...

- Not all new messages are appearing on my Blackberry
- WHEN I get notified of a new message, it's usually about 5 min. or so after it actually arrived in my Gmail account
- When I read the message on my Blackberry, in less than a minute, it's marked as read on Gmail
- When I delete a message on my Blackberry and Mailbox, it's gone from my Gmail account in less than a minute
- This also applies for taking an item that has been read and marking it as unread.
- Haven't tried status changes on Gmail Web -> Blackberry.
- Haven't messed with folders or anything of the sort... the folders (labels) that are already in my Gmail account don't seem to show up on my Blackberry.

I'm attributing the problems to Gmail's growing pains... and hope they'll eventually be fixed. In the meantime, I think I may go back to POP3... at least until the IMAP issues are ironed out.

This is exactly what I see including google hosted domains. RIM is working on the problem of delayed BB delivery (in some cases I get the first emai instantly then others take up to 5 minutes to arrive).

What I see is 1-way sync between the BB and Gmail. Any activity on the Gmail side (web interface or IMAP thru Outlook) does not sync to the BB.

virgiliomi · 11-02-2007, 12:28 PM

I did some cleaning of my mailbox... dumped the 9,000+ messages in the spam folder, cleaned up some of the mail in my various tags... bringing my inbox down to about 1,300 messages... then re-set up the IMAP. It seems to be working consistently now, every message coming through to the Blackberry... and a 2-4 minute delay between arriving at Gmail and arriving on my Blackberry.

Also, it does appear that it is one-way, where changes made on the Blackberry (read/unread, deleted, etc.) sync back to the mailbox, but changes made on the web don't sync to the Blackberry. Which is fine for me. I do most of my message reading on my Blackberry anyway. I really only use the web for reporting spam anymore... and in reality, I could do that with the Gmail Blackberry client.

JOVE · 11-08-2007, 05:10 PM

When I write an email from my BB using BIS, Gmail, IMAP, sent messages are NOT showing up in my sent message folder on the gmail server.

Anyone else experience this?

For the most part everything else seems to be happening the way everyone esle is describing with the one-way sync from bb to gmail.

Any news from RIM? Have they caught up with gmail's IMAP yet?

rivviepop · 11-08-2007, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JOVE

When I write an email from my BB using BIS, Gmail, IMAP, sent messages are NOT showing up in my sent message folder on the gmail server.
Anyone else experience this?

Yes - in my BIS I have the same email address in the BCC field so a copy of every email is sent back to myself. I then use the standard method of BIS filters to make sure I don't get copies of my own email forwarded to the device. I don't quite understand from Google's point of view why it works, but those BCC'd emails back to myself are automatically routed into my Sent folder in GMail.

coastieboy00 · 11-09-2007, 06:49 PM

So everyone else still have slow IMAP access? POP access still the fastest way to get the instant delivery?

whsbuss · 11-09-2007, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by coastieboy00

So everyone else still have slow IMAP access? POP access still the fastest way to get the instant delivery?

You bet. IMAP on google needs some time to beta in. I have one account in Outlook doing google IMAP and I get server disconnects. So I'd stay away from using it in the BIS.

YMMV

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