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Old 03-01-2010, 11:38 AM   #1
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Hello BES Admin Experts!

I am an exchange administrator (2007 SP2) for an organization with about 6,500 users spread over two counties and 100+ locations. We have about 100 Blackberry users that currently access their mailboxes via IMAP configuration on their Blackberries. They are using various cell phone providers. These users could benefit from a BES Express implementation as it would provide push email and contact/calendar syncing.

I have no previous experience with BES, so I have some questions that I hope you can help me with:
  • What are the downsides of implementing BES Express?
  • How needy is BES Express? Is it a support-hungry time-pit or a install-and-forget type of thing?
  • Will my users need to change their cell plans with their carriers? BIS to BES plans?
  • Our Exchange implementation does not include public folders. Does BES Express require them or is that just a option?
  • Will implementing BES Express cause problems with the user's other existing email accounts, such as a home account or Yahoo?
Thanks in advance,
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Hello BES Admin Experts!

I am an exchange administrator (2007 SP2) for an organization with about 6,500 users spread over two counties and 100+ locations. We have about 100 Blackberry users that currently access their mailboxes via IMAP configuration on their Blackberries. They are using various cell phone providers. These users could benefit from a BES Express implementation as it would provide push email and contact/calendar syncing.

I have no previous experience with BES, so I have some questions that I hope you can help me with:
  • What are the downsides of implementing BES Express?
You need a dedicated server for 100 users.
  • How needy is BES Express? Is it a support-hungry time-pit or a install-and-forget type of thing?
All server need a little maintenance/monitoring. Its too new to tell yet.
  • Will my users need to change their cell plans with their carriers? BIS to BES plans?
Read the Docs, any Blackberry dataplan works.
BlackBerry Enterprise Server Express for Microsoft Exchange - Manuals and Guides
  • Our Exchange implementation does not include public folders. Does BES Express require them or is that just a option?
In the docs.
  • Will implementing BES Express cause problems with the user's other existing email accounts, such as a home account or Yahoo?
It should not affect BIS accounts.

Thanks in advance,
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Thanks Knotty. I did look over the documentation, but I didn't find the answers to my questions, which is why I asked here.

For the question about public folders, all I could find was how to configure them, not whether they were required or not. Do you have any insight on that?
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If you did not install any public folders in Microsoft® Exchange, you must configure the BlackBerry® Enterprise Server to run without public folders by changing a registry key.
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Thank you very much Knotty!
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I installed the BES express today and attempted to connect to my blackberry. It told me that I needed to contact my wireless provider and upgrade to an enterprise account. I thought you did not need to have the more expensive account to utilize it. Can someone please fill me in?

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I installed the BES express today and attempted to connect to my blackberry. It told me that I needed to contact my wireless provider and upgrade to an enterprise account. I thought you did not need to have the more expensive account to utilize it. Can someone please fill me in?

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You need the Enterprise data plan if you are trying to do a WIRELESS Enterprise Activation.
Without the Enterprise data plan, you can only do a WIRED activation.
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You need the Enterprise data plan if you are trying to do a WIRELESS Enterprise Activation.
Without the Enterprise data plan, you can only do a WIRED activation.
Thanks for the info, I will do a wired install tomorrow and see what happens!

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Thanks for the info, I will do a wired install tomorrow and see what happens!

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I am unable to associate a device. I find the user and I find the device, but can not get them hooked together. Also when I check blackberry server, I click on Mapi and it says "the Mapi subsystem cannot be correctly initialized and used. Please make sure Mapi is installed and configured properely." Obviously I am not an IT person and I am pretty lost right now. I did have this device working on BES, but was tired of paying the extra bucks out of my pocket for work. Any ideas for this novice?

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Keep in mind BES does have some IO to be aware of, something like 3 -1 compared to Outlook hitting your boxes. For 100 users it shouldn't be much on a well configured box but I'd still install to dedicated hardware / VM if possible. Do some baseline before so you can see what the impact is.

- Wireless reconcile / hard delete support / free & busy lookup / attachments could have an impact.

Outside of that you have the standard "keep the system" running type stuff. May have some cycles for troubleshooting / Add & Remove (if you govern who is able to be on BES)

Once activated any exsisting accounts should remain. Note all messages will filter to the main Messages folder.
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Without the Enterprise data plan, you can only do a WIRED activation.
thank you for the info, i had a meeting with my provider this morning (vodafone GR) and they told me that you can only do a WIRED activation with BESx, omitting (on purpose?) that this is the case only with BIS plans. thank you blackberryforums for existing!!
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