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07-22-2009, 06:49 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Model: 8330
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Carrier: sprint
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Long Restart
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Anyone notice the tour take 5-7 minutes to restart as apposed to the curve that was like 2 minutes?
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07-22-2009, 07:22 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Model: Tour
Carrier: SprintPCS
Posts: 48
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i went from 8703e to Tour and yes the restart/load session is drastically longer. Tech support asked me 2x "okay what is it doing now" "it is still loading up"
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07-22-2009, 07:48 AM
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CrackBerry Addict
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Upstate NY
Model: 9930
OS: 7.0.1.163
Carrier: Verizon Wireless
Posts: 540
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~10 minutes!
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07-22-2009, 10:41 AM
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Latino Hasta La Muerte
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Denville, NJ.
Model: 9370
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 9,063
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Longest of any BlackBerry I've owned, but my time is only 3:35 from battery pull to completion of the software check.
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07-22-2009, 03:57 PM
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Model: 9650
OS: 5.0.0.975
PIN: 321D643B
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 199
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9 minutes for me today using quickpull.
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07-22-2009, 07:17 PM
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Concord, NH
Model: 9630
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 15
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Mine times at 8:47 from battery reinsertion. That is just too long.
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07-22-2009, 07:24 PM
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BlackBerry Blooded
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Tucson Arizona
Model: 9630
OS: 4.7.1.40
PIN: ????
Carrier: Verizon Wireless
Posts: 1,271
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I just ran quickpull and my Tour took 3:42 -- Seems the more apps I install, the longer it takes to reboot.
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07-23-2009, 09:05 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Model: 9630
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 4
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Mine took about 8 minutes to get to the home screen / verifying security. This was from a quickpull restart, if that matters.
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07-23-2009, 02:17 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: UK
Model: 9800
OS: 6.0.0.337
PIN: S = Ouch
Carrier: Orange UK
Posts: 717
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Wirelessly posted (8820 on WiFi)
I would expect times to improve with later OS updates.
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07-23-2009, 05:06 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: US
Model: 9930
PIN: Ask please
Carrier: Verizon Wireless
Posts: 694
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6 minutes for me doing an actual pull. It seems like forever.
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07-23-2009, 06:30 PM
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Join Date: Mar 2005
Model: 9550
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 397
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Ditto, forever!!
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07-23-2009, 10:17 PM
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Join Date: Aug 2005
Model: 9630
OS: 5.0.0.732
Carrier: Sprint
Posts: 264
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Same. It definitely takes much longer than every other BB i've owned.
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08-04-2009, 11:29 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Model: 9630
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Research with Tour on Sprint
Ok, I have had my Tour for a few days now. I had a Pearl and after I activate it via Enterprise Activation on my BES account here at Sprint I was getting reboot times of over 10 minutes, one time it took 14 mintues! From my research I've found two things. Have your BES administrator wipe out your BES account and start from scratch. You'll lose some settings, custom dictionary, etc. but it's worth it. This was deffinately part of the issue. Next, disable memory cleaning. Unlike the Pearl, the setting for this is saved after a reboot and it will stay on. I was adding 2 to 4 mintues to my reboot time. Now, mine consistently reboots in about 4:30 minutes, which I can live with. I have a ton of programs installed so I'm guessing if I had a few less it would be lower, but at least it isn't 10+ anymore. Also, the blackberry admin here said the long reboot times is known and it's just how it works. I guess the Storm takes a while to reboot too, same phone basically just with at touchscreen.
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08-04-2009, 11:45 AM
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Chicago, IL, USA
Model: 9630
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Sprint
Posts: 26
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8:35 for me today. About 3 times longer than Windows Vista on my 2 year old laptop.
What????
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08-04-2009, 12:05 PM
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Join Date: Apr 2006
Model: 9650
OS: 6.0.0.222
Carrier: VZW
Posts: 240
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12:45 for me! It was about 6 minutes before the BES applied all the security (Content Protection).
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08-04-2009, 08:02 PM
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: NY
Model: Z10
OS: 10.0.9.42
PIN: t of ale anyone?
Carrier: VZW
Posts: 374
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Originally Posted by ebloomca
Ok, I have had my Tour for a few days now. I had a Pearl and after I activate it via Enterprise Activation on my BES account here at Sprint I was getting reboot times of over 10 minutes, one time it took 14 mintues! From my research I've found two things. Have your BES administrator wipe out your BES account and start from scratch. You'll lose some settings, custom dictionary, etc. but it's worth it. This was deffinately part of the issue. Next, disable memory cleaning. Unlike the Pearl, the setting for this is saved after a reboot and it will stay on. I was adding 2 to 4 mintues to my reboot time. Now, mine consistently reboots in about 4:30 minutes, which I can live with. I have a ton of programs installed so I'm guessing if I had a few less it would be lower, but at least it isn't 10+ anymore. Also, the blackberry admin here said the long reboot times is known and it's just how it works. I guess the Storm takes a while to reboot too, same phone basically just with at touchscreen.
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A quick question on your post - Did you leave your Tour "as is" after activation, then delete and re-create your BES account and re-activate?
I've noticed that with the big changes from Curve to Tour, BES activation has a lot of stuff to do and probably doesn't need to. I am thinking of backing up my essentials only then wiping the device and starting over again. A big issue that I see is application permissions.
Thoughts?
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Z10 and PlayBook <- 9650<- 9630 <- 8330 <- 8130 <- 8830 <- 8703e <- 7130e <- 7250
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08-05-2009, 02:25 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: NYC
Model: 9630
OS: v5.0
Carrier: Sprint
Posts: 25
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Originally Posted by dschachm
Anyone notice the tour take 5-7 minutes to restart as apposed to the curve that was like 2 minutes?
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Wow so true I cant stand this crap
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08-05-2009, 07:32 PM
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: NY
Model: Z10
OS: 10.0.9.42
PIN: t of ale anyone?
Carrier: VZW
Posts: 374
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Well I decided to try this.
I backup up some saved SMS messages I needed, then I wiped my phone. While I was wiping, I deleted my BES profile, then recreated it and set my activation password. The results:
- Enterprise activation took about 5 minutes. By far a record. Deleting all that old stuff does wonders.
- Boot time dropped from around 8 minutes to about 4.
- The deviced is just plain snappier. A lot snappier.
I noticed when I activated the Tour the first time, the application permissions were up near 1000 records. I believe the BES stores permissions for applications you have removed and then re-applies them. I know this happeded to me with VZ Navigator and the fix was a re-install to reset the permissions.
What I lost because you can't back it up (if you're on a BES) is profiles and bookmarks. That really is about it. Profiles took me 5 minutes to reset. Bookmarks I will just start over. I didn't care because I had a bunch I wasn't using.
So, if you are brave, give it a try!
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Z10 and PlayBook <- 9650<- 9630 <- 8330 <- 8130 <- 8830 <- 8703e <- 7130e <- 7250
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08-05-2009, 11:23 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Los Angeles
Model: 9530
OS: 4.7.0.151
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Carrier: TMobile
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Averages about 5 minutes for me after a battery pull. For some weird reason, sometimes it takes significantly less time, closer to maybe 2 mins but can't pinpoint it yet.
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08-06-2009, 05:39 PM
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Join Date: Jun 2007
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OS: 4.5.x.x
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Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 211
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Nine minutes for me today. It's especially annoying because I'm still in the process of adding and removing applications to try stuff out... and virtually every time I delete an app the Blackberry wants me to restart. If I had 6 applications to delete and I restarted every time, it would take me an hour! Fortunately you can decline to restart until you've deleted them all, but still... yeesh. Worse is when you're prompted to restart after you install a new app.
There's one other minor annoyance I have with the phone... the fact that the trackball isn't recessed at all. While typing, I keep accidentally hitting the trackball lightly with my thumb, causing the cursor to move left or right while typing. I have to conciously think to keep my thumb from sweeping across it by lifting my thumbs higher up off the keypad between key presses than I used to on my Curve.
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