[djransom]

Originally Posted by rambo47

I read somewhere that it was the Infineon chipset that was making a hash of the iPhone situation.

Exactly that is the issue and it is going to be interesting to see how they fix this massive problem. I'm hoping to see the Bold rather sooner than later.

[CrazyMac]

I am beginning to think it is all mirrors and lights with nothing but a bunch of test version out there currently. I have never kept up with a release this close before, did the other models from BB have this much hipe and delays? I can't believe this is good for business since I know of several people that are considering going to the iPhone.

[Helmdawg]

Originally Posted by CrazyMac

I am beginning to think it is all mirrors and lights with nothing but a bunch of test version out there currently. I have never kept up with a release this close before, did the other models from BB have this much hipe and delays? I can't believe this is good for business since I know of several people that are considering going to the iPhone.

And after a few weeks with the iPhone, they will be back to BB...

[djransom]

Originally Posted by Helmdawg

And after a few weeks with the iPhone, they will be back to BB...

That is very true. Not even a few weeks.

[JerseyMarine]

i got rid of my iPhone after 1 day..i hated it

[mbal1856]

Talked to my ATT business rep yesterday. Wanted to change from a 8820 to a curve. Really would like to have a camera so I didn't have to worry about forgetting my digital camera. She said wait until mid October for release of Bold.

[Shaun]

At this rate (Rogers and AT&T) I will be well adjusted to my QWERTZ keyboard, before the North America release, if you know what I mean.

[realfresh]

Yeah, at this point I'm thinking of having my cousin pick me up one from Germany =(

[strogonowski]

Originally Posted by Helmdawg

And after a few weeks with the iPhone, they will be back to BB...

Try few days. About 25 people in my office that got their Iphones there is only one left.... most of them were back on BES in 2-3 days. All said the same thing, email functionality (exchange) and battery life is not even close to BB units (mostly sales users).

[Blackberryer]

Originally Posted by strogonowski

Try few days. About 25 people in my office that got their Iphones there is only one left.... most of them were back on BES in 2-3 days. All said the same thing, email functionality (exchange) and battery life is not even close to BB units (mostly sales users).

Sorry, but I do not believe for an instant that out of 25 people in your office that bought iPhones, 24 returned them.

Try again.

[John Clark]

Wirelessly posted (BB 11020)

Why? I was on an airliner the other day and overheard two guys with iPhones saying how many problems they'd had and they were going to return them. YMMV

[rambo47]

I can't wait to hear the fallout if HSBC goes iPhone! That will be a spectacular train wreck.
Comfy chair: check!
Popcorn: check!
Sh!teating grin: check!

[holden]

Originally Posted by Blackberryer

Sigh. Unfortunately it's starting to sound like AT&T's "It will be out by November" comment meant much later rather than sooner.

Really sucks.

Yeah, like what else is new about At&t. They are never F A S T.
We can all retire by the time they get done branding the BOLD to suit their At&t corporate/consumer style. (or walk to Canada and buy a Rogers)

EDIT: The 27th of October is close - and it has been very quiet - Mmmmmm is it time for BOLD??

H.

[controlled]

Originally Posted by Blackberryer

Sorry, but I do not believe for an instant that out of 25 people in your office that bought iPhones, 24 returned them.

Try again.

Whats so hard to believe about that. I don't know of any business user that hasnt switched back. iPhones are great for teenagers or housewives, but not the business user.

[Blackberryer]

Originally Posted by John Clark

Wirelessly posted (BB 11020)

Why? I was on an airliner the other day and overheard two guys with iPhones saying how many problems they'd had and they were going to return them. YMMV

24 out of 25? Really? The absolute worst products on the market don't have that kind of return rate, and the iPhone certainly isn't one of the worst. Not even close.

It sounds to me like the usual BlackBerry home team iPhone bashing for its own sake.

[John Clark]

Wirelessly posted (BB 11020)

If you look at the name of this website you'll see it is called blackberryforums.com.

[Blackberryer]

Originally Posted by John Clark

Wirelessly posted (BB 11020)

If you look at the name of this website you'll see it is called blackberryforums.com.

I have no idea what that's supposed to mean in context to what we're discussing. I wasn't taking the position that there's something wrong with favoring a BlackBerry, which obviously I do considering I own one. I was taking the position that the gentleman's story sounded entirely implausible.

Oh wait -

[JSanders]

Originally Posted by Blackberryer

24 out of 25? Really? The absolute worst products on the market don't have that kind of return rate, and the iPhone certainly isn't one of the worst. Not even close.

It sounds to me like the usual BlackBerry home team iPhone bashing for its own sake.

Why is that "implausible" for you to comprehend? They used the device and discovered it's flaws for BES. For 25 hardcore email users, for 24 of them to return the iPhone in favor of what has worked well is not at all "implausible".

[strogonowski]

Originally Posted by Blackberryer

24 out of 25? Really? The absolute worst products on the market don't have that kind of return rate, and the iPhone certainly isn't one of the worst. Not even close.

It sounds to me like the usual BlackBerry home team iPhone bashing for its own sake.

I'm only talking about Blackberry users here. We also have WM users and I know some of them also got Iphones. But since they don't have to come to me and ask me to put them back on BES, I don't know what the ratio is.

Also, I didn't say they returned their units back. Maybe they still play with them on the weekends, I know I do

I'm not here to bash the Iphone, I think it's a revolutionary device but it falls short as a business tool. I'm sure in the future Apple will add enhancements, and it will become friendlier device to business user (especially road warriors). For now it is what it is and that's the feedback I get from my users.

Now, I want my Bold...... That 8700 has way to many scratches on it....

[holden]

Waiting for Bold is like quitting smoking. You creave a cig everyday and are denied the satisfaction of a nicoteen high.

I guess when the light is at the end of the tunnel and we get our Bold, it will be like smoking a single cigarette after you quit for a long time...

If they keep this up with the tease, they are going to have a lot of people wondering why all the tease since February at WES was about. It has been over 6 months of "We expect the release on such and such".
When you polish a piece of coal that long you have to have a diamond...

On second thought, I think I will walk to Canada and pick up one from Rodgers...

We just sent two managers to Japan and had to rent the 8707g's Triband. It would have been nice to send them with a phone that works without renting one...

FYI: The iPhone is a pain to setup in a corporate environment and the keyboard is lousy...

H.