[wjackson81]

to clarify... when I had a v600 I used the same sim card for 7 years and three different v600s.

I obtained a new sim when I finally upgraded to the blackberry, that is the one that stopped working after six weeks. I think I agree with the poster who said they dont make them like they used to.

[pheng617]

i doubt its the 4.5 os after what i have read. not sure but i highly doubt it

[JSanders]

No, if you actually read the above discussion, the discussion is that it is not the OS itself killing the SIM card, but "perhaps" (pure speculation added here) your carrier, or RIM via your carrier.

[wjackson81]

Im running the .37 beta on the att network going on a week and my sim card is working fine. As an IT person, I personally think it would be very very simple for RIM with the cooperation of the carrier to deactivate your sim card if your copy of the beta if it were not a legitimate copy. Based on the fact that A) as soon as your phone registers on the netwrok it reports the version you are running; B) that this appears to be a problem on multiple carriers; C) that I and many others are running pirated copies of the OS successfully, I was just saying I highly doubt that RIM is disabling SIMs.
I think the idea about RIM intentionally leaking the OS would be more likely than this scenario.
Any other person with knowledge of systems administration could back me up on how easy it would be for RIM to actually do this if they wanted to.
Ill just leave the topic of my old sim card and phone out of it, cause my writing sucks and is already confusing enough.

[wjackson81]

And thanks, but I did read the discussion above. The jest of it is that people believe in the latest version the programmers at RIM enabled some special way of disabling the sim. It is a stupid idea. It would have to be done by the carrier. The OS on the phone has nothing to do with the SIM other than the fact it reads data from it.
Now im not saying that the os couldnt erase the SIM, it could. If this were the case all pirated versions would do so and well, we know this isnt happening.

[donthateme13]

Sim rejected/not allowed on my tmo 8320 after running 4.5.0.37 for all of 3 days so add me to that list

[hotburnttoast]

Wirelessly posted

Anybody who has had there sim card replaced, are you still having issues

[wjackson81]

I just went back to re-read the thread and it looks like jibi is the person I was looking to back me up on this. Only one person not on Tmobile reported a problem and they said it just wouldnt let them on EDGE consistently, and therefore their SIM hasnt been completely blocked.
After a careful re-read of the thread it looks entirely plausible that Tmo is monitoring their network for the beta OS's. I would assume that the reason it was on this version and not others is that this version is close to the final release (opinion based on stability). On all other versions people have complained about the version being too buggy to be worth the time, whereas I have not noticed any major issues with this release.

[wjackson81]

I do have to wonder why there is no registration key required for this software. Any software company concerned about piracy uses them. There would have to be a very limited amount of authorized users so the programmers wouldnt even have to come up with an algorithm, they could simply link a static key to imei's or pin's. Removing the key requirement for the final release would be easy to do as well.

[flash24]

Originally Posted by wjackson81

Im running the .37 beta on the att network going on a week and my sim card is working fine. As an IT person, I personally think it would be very very simple for RIM with the cooperation of the carrier to deactivate your sim card if your copy of the beta if it were not a legitimate copy. Based on the fact that A) as soon as your phone registers on the netwrok it reports the version you are running; B) that this appears to be a problem on multiple carriers; C) that I and many others are running pirated copies of the OS successfully, I was just saying I highly doubt that RIM is disabling SIMs.
I think the idea about RIM intentionally leaking the OS would be more likely than this scenario.
Any other person with knowledge of systems administration could back me up on how easy it would be for RIM to actually do this if they wanted to.
Ill just leave the topic of my old sim card and phone out of it, cause my writing sucks and is already confusing enough.

You could be right.. but who knows.

[flash24]

Originally Posted by wjackson81

I just went back to re-read the thread and it looks like jibi is the person I was looking to back me up on this. Only one person not on Tmobile reported a problem and they said it just wouldnt let them on EDGE consistently, and therefore their SIM hasnt been completely blocked.
After a careful re-read of the thread it looks entirely plausible that Tmo is monitoring their network for the beta OS's. I would assume that the reason it was on this version and not others is that this version is close to the final release (opinion based on stability). On all other versions people have complained about the version being too buggy to be worth the time, whereas I have not noticed any major issues with this release.

Yea, I've notice that it's been it's been only happening to tmobile customers.

[Ashg]

Originally Posted by wjackson81

I do have to wonder why there is no registration key required for this software. Any software company concerned about piracy uses them. There would have to be a very limited amount of authorized users so the programmers wouldnt even have to come up with an algorithm, they could simply link a static key to imei's or pin's. Removing the key requirement for the final release would be easy to do as well.

Blackberries have a great built-in option for this. All RIM needs to do is having a whitelist of PIN codes that are approved to fully use the new OS. If your PIN isn't in the list, then your phone will boot but you would get a message telling you to downgrade to the appropriate OS version in order to re-enable phone and application functions.

[jmntn2000]

has anyone had sim card problems with 4.5.0.37, tmo, and 8100?

[hotburnttoast]

Sim card #2 killed after 3 days, on 4.5.0.37, gonna get a new sim card and roll back 4.5.0.18

[hotburnttoast]

It seems to be only TMO customers having this issue.......Anybody other people on other carriers having the issue?

[Cory Scheuer]

I"m on Fido/Rogers, and have yet to have any SIM cards go on me... *knocks on wood*

[jmntn2000]

but is it related to a certain device? It looks like a lot of 8320s that are having issues anybody have the sim card issue with other devices with tmo?

[ChesterJT]

Since I was having EDGE/edge issues with .18 and downgraded to 4.2. I upgraded to .37 on my 8100 two days ago after finding it. So far I haven't had a single issue with it network wise. So for me it was definitely .18 causing the network connection issues. I'm on AT&T. I'll let you know if anything happens in the next few days.

[pwc realtor]

I am having sorta of an issue and it may or may not be related to this . Anyone can chime in their attitude.

I had installed .37 but downgraded to .18 due to the lack of UMA.

Today I am now getting "uma" when I turn on WIFI. With wifi off the phone works perfectly but when in "uma" mode any program that needs access to BIBS or BES does not work.

I mae four different phone calls to Tmo and got four different answers. finally someone got me an appointment tomorow to go to the retail store and get my SIM replaced.

I have had issues in the past with only getting "edge" or "uma" so i htink that is what is gettng me the new SIM. anyone think this ia nother 4.5 tragedy or just a flaky sim taht finally is biting the dust?

[JSanders]

This was not the correct thread to post your issue in, pwc realtor, this thread is about users SIM cards being completely disabled while using OS 4.5.

UMA is not working perfectly on any of the OS 4.5 beta releases. You can expect issues for the time being. Yours is a beta OS issue (4.5 tragedy? Is a beta software supposed to work perfect, isn't this where those approved users test the software to see what will work and what won't work, report back, test and try again, make adjustments, rinse and repeat, adjustments, rinse and repeat?).

It is one thing to seek help here but please, be realistic about what you are doing...

And you might want to downgrade your OS before you hit the TMo store tomorrow. Running a unreleased OS on your BB can void a warranty.

But good luck. You might really ought to downgrade to an OS that works so all this won't be so "tragic".