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Should the President be commenting on the actions of a local police department regarding a minor incident with no criminal prosecution?
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WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama said Wednesday that police acted "stupidly" in the arrest of prominent black scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. and that despite racial progress blacks and Hispanics are still singled out unfairly for arrest. ...
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Obama: Cambridge police acted stupidly
Mr. Gates' arrest report:
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07-23-2009, 03:28 PM
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No he should not be... Instead of word protecting his friends, he might be well served to act on that "change I can believe in"....
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07-23-2009, 06:23 PM
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Stupid action by Obama? Yes.
Stupid action by Cambridge police? Probably.
Stupid action by Cambridge police? Probably.
Stupid action by Gates? Probably.
Sounds like a major cluster f--k all the way around.
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07-23-2009, 06:34 PM
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I agree, djm. Looks like no one was thinking.
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07-25-2009, 01:14 AM
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Whatever happened on site, not knowing about it and then judging the officer's actions, and referencing racial history is a big mistake.
What is the difference between racial profiling and profiling officers as racist? Both make assumptions based on people being in a certain group.
"What I think we know separate and apart from this incident is that there's a long history in this country of African-Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately," Obama said. "That's just a fact."
Would it have been ok if the reporter then said, "what I think we know separate from this case, is there are a lot of African-Americans in jail. That's just a fact."? Of course not since it has no relevance to the incident. So why make a similar statement about police?
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07-25-2009, 11:28 AM
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It occurs to me that perhaps the real problem here was that the neighbors didn't know each other. All this could have been avoided had they simply introduced themselves to each other.
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07-25-2009, 11:49 AM
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The issue here is that we, the public, the President, etc. do not know the facts. We only know what the media has reported, which IMHO, is most likely not 100% of what went on.
Once the facts - the real facts - come out, then we might be able to make a decision on right or wrong, but even with that, we were not in the policeman's shoes.
I also feel the need to comment on the racial aspect. It seems many times that the race card is played by a person who really was doing something wrong, but raises the race card to get attention, sympathy, to get a way out or to draw the media's attention to the incident. That really gripes me.
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07-26-2009, 06:41 PM
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Obama needs to keep those types of comments to himself. He was way out of line with it, IMO, and should be doing his own job perfect first, before casting stones at people who put their lives on the line every day.
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07-27-2009, 08:05 AM
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07-27-2009, 02:35 PM
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This officer came close to having his career and life ruined and a beer will make everything better? Come have a beer with me and my friend, who you arrested, at the WH.
If this officer did not have what seems to be an exemplary background and there were not 2 minority officers there, his life would be over. No waiting for the facts, his life would have been done. Even now, he's under the microscope the whole rest of his career. |
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07-27-2009, 03:22 PM
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Obama can't find time to fix the economy, peace in the middle east, the war in Iraq, General Motors nor anything else... but he sure takes care of his friends. His psuedo-communist friend, Dr. Gates. I was not aware of Gates' checkered past and radical leftist activities, which knowing about now explains the nut's actions before his arrest. He was attempting to stir a problem up.
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07-27-2009, 04:25 PM
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Obama can't find time to fix the economy, peace in the middle east, the war in Iraq, General Motors nor anything else... but he sure takes care of his friends. His psuedo-communist friend, Dr. Gates. I was not aware of Gates' checkered past and radical leftist activities, which knowing about now explains the nut's actions before his arrest. He was attempting to stir a problem up.
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07-28-2009, 09:54 PM
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Obama can't find time to fix the economy, peace in the middle east, the war in Iraq, General Motors nor anything else... but he sure takes care of his friends. His psuedo-communist friend, Dr. Gates. I was not aware of Gates' checkered past and radical leftist activities, which knowing about now explains the nut's actions before his arrest. He was attempting to stir a problem up.
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07-30-2009, 07:01 AM
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Okay officers first priority make it home to his family safely at end of shift
Had the neighbors been neighborly situation may have been averted
Could the situation been handled differently sure
Officer was acting on limited info he had
He wasn't driving buy the residence while the 2 men were trying to enter someone else reported it he merely responded. In my eyes that eliminate "racial profiling" in this situation does it not!
EPIC fail on obama nothing new sadly
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07-30-2009, 07:28 AM
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The Obama White House did.
I guess you've read the article in the NYT earlier this week indicating the whole press conference question was a setup by Obama and the White House? |
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07-31-2009, 10:53 AM
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So they all gathered yesterday for beers at the whitehouse (Biden included) and i read last night that Gates was the only one to drink a fully american beer. I can't find the article now but Gates had a Sam Adams lite, The president had a Bud Light (now owned and operated by a belgian company) forget what the other had except Biden's was near beer.
Damnit if my president is going to have a beer in my white house then it had better be an american owned and operated brewery.
DAMNIT!
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07-31-2009, 11:12 AM
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Crowley drank a Blue Moon and Biden had Buckler, a non-alcoholic beer.
I believe Blue Moon is owned and operated in Golden CO.
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07-31-2009, 11:53 AM
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Molson owns Blue Moon
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