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Old 11-03-2005, 10:33 AM   #81
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In the name of asking dumb obvious questions, since AT&T is Cingular now, wouldnt they exchange the SIM if a "blue" SIM did'nt work? Would'nt they be trying to phase out the AT&T customers and migrate these people over to full Cingular customers, no?
When I called about this phone, the lady I spoke with said that she has not heard of the phone, but the computer says that it will be available to current Cingular and former ATT wireless customers (me). That is all she could currently tell me about the phone (no pricing, when available, etc.).

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Old 11-03-2005, 12:54 PM   #82
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the screen of the phone is under plastic like the 7100. the resolution is alot nicer then the 7100 and there is super bright mode, for visiability in sunlight.
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Old 11-03-2005, 02:04 PM   #83
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Thanks Mike! I can attest that screen quality from the David Pogue video.
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Old 11-03-2005, 02:29 PM   #84
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But BlackBerrys have generally been mediocre phones, and the 8700c is no exception. Its earpiece is loud and the speakerphone very loud, but the built-in microphone is poor at canceling background noise and we experienced several audio dropouts and fluctuations during test calls despite the BlackBerry's interface reporting full signal strength.
I really hope this isn't true. This was my only real problem with the 7100t/g series. The noise cancellation was terrible. I hope at least the reception is better with the 8700 (over the 7100t/g)
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Old 11-03-2005, 02:35 PM   #85
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Old 11-03-2005, 07:48 PM   #86
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Thanks Mike! I can attest that screen quality from the David Pogue video.
Where is this video???
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Old 11-03-2005, 07:49 PM   #87
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the screen of the phone is under plastic like the 7100. the resolution is alot nicer then the 7100 and there is super bright mode, for visiability in sunlight.
When you say "super bright mode", do you mean the backlight goes even BRIGHTER to remain visible in sunlight?

Or does it turn it completely off, like on the 7200 and 7500 series?

If it needs the backlight in the sunlight, that's retarded! There was nothing wrong with the TFTs from a year or 2 ago as far as visibility in sunlight goes.

BTW, I asked at my local Cingular corporate-owned store yesterday. Asked the store manager. He still hasn't been told anything about the release date for the 8700c. All he could tell me is "I've seen what it looks like". So, at this point, we know more here than people who work at Cingular's stores know! That's hilarious!
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Old 11-03-2005, 08:30 PM   #88
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Well, they probably don't need to know much until 11/21!
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I really hope this isn't true. This was my only real problem with the 7100t/g series. The noise cancellation was terrible. I hope at least the reception is better with the 8700 (over the 7100t/g)
A review is just one person's opinion....form your own when you get it....!
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Where is this video???
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/03/te...s/03pogue.html

The link is on the left under the multimedia heading.
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Old 11-03-2005, 11:25 PM   #91
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When you say "super bright mode", do you mean the backlight goes even BRIGHTER to remain visible in sunlight?

Or does it turn it completely off, like on the 7200 and 7500 series?

If it needs the backlight in the sunlight, that's retarded! There was nothing wrong with the TFTs from a year or 2 ago as far as visibility in sunlight goes.

BTW, I asked at my local Cingular corporate-owned store yesterday. Asked the store manager. He still hasn't been told anything about the release date for the 8700c. All he could tell me is "I've seen what it looks like". So, at this point, we know more here than people who work at Cingular's stores know! That's hilarious!

yes the screen goes even brighter in direct sunlight, because we are not dealing with the same low color lcd, u want beatifull, colorful, bright display at high resoultion, well thats where the super bright mode comes in, and i have to say it is fully usable without and problems, and automaticly switches the light modes depending on where you are. sounds kinda werid, but very cool and works very well.
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Old 11-04-2005, 07:55 AM   #92
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Hey guys. I've heard it is fast on the web (words like "crazy" and "STUPID" have been used) How is the web browser?
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Old 11-04-2005, 08:06 AM   #93
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If and when any of you have it and/or get it... put your thumb on the screen 1/4" to the right of dead center... it should brighten up damn hidden sensors...

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That video is s riot. Good info with just enough humor to make it funny.
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Web browser is stupid and crazy no for real its amazing especially with javascript disabled things fly by faster than those cows in twister. Its madness
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Old 11-04-2005, 02:30 PM   #96
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the sensor for the light is rigth where the LED is. i figured it out after playing around enough. cover the LED and you will see it brighten up.
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I like it. This is the handset that will finally break me away from Nextel.
Don't forget that Cingular PTT service will be out by the end of the year, as well. So you won't be without PTT - as long as some of those people switch to Cingular, too.

Some people have been postulating that the 3-dot soft key on the left hand side of the 8700c is for Push to Talk.

But who knows?
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Old 11-04-2005, 05:12 PM   #98
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the sensor for the light is rigth where the LED is. i figured it out after playing around enough. cover the LED and you will see it brighten up.
Shouldn't it be brighter when the LED is NOT covered?? If it was covered, that would mean it is dark out and the screen would not need to be as bright.

My Audi guages have the same function....really helpful when you go through a tunnel.
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Shouldn't it be brighter when the LED is NOT covered?? If it was covered, that would mean it is dark out and the screen would not need to be as bright.
That's correct - That is the way the 8700 light sensor behaves. The original poster probably got confused. There is an approx 3 second filter for rapidly fluctuating light levels, so you have to cover for a moment before the gradually settles to its dimmer level.
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Old 11-04-2005, 06:33 PM   #100
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Apologies if I missed it in an earlier post, but can you turn off the light sensor feature and leave the screen at maximum brightness?

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