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View Poll Results: SICK OF NTP???
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12-01-2005, 12:43 AM
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Anyone Sick and Tired of NTP???
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Ok, maybe I'm just a lowly webclient user, maybe I'm only an outsider in this whole fiasco of wireless tech showdowns, but I'm curious if anyone feels the same way I do about this whole situation. I've owned the 6510, 7510, and currently the 7520. I well understand the competing technologies, but that has nothing to do about what I'm inquiring about in the post.
What I would like to know (and I've searched so F off flamers) is: does anyone else feel that NTP is just a bloodsucking piece of SH(T company that is trying to capitalize on an IP holding that they've done nothing with whatsoever?
Seriously, argue with me here. I would love to hear it. Give me a reason not to hate this company (as a dedicated blackberry user). To me this whole lawsuit amounts to one thing: a person (turned into company, Thomas Campana Jr) "invents" a "solution" and does nothing with it.... (crickets chirping), waits until another company implements it for the masses and then says oh wait a minute, I invented this product, but because of complacency I deserve 1 billion dollars. Give me a break... Give it your best shot. I'm looking for an argument.
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12-01-2005, 01:30 AM
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what makes it even funnier is the lwsuit is for something like sending wireless email over a handheld device - something that in my opinion was INEVITABLE, not a great idea.. just more like OF COURSE we're gonna have wireless email on a handheld device!
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12-01-2005, 07:09 AM
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I got sick of this crap a long time ago. NTP should have taken the $450M and let it go. I would love nothing better than to see the patents tossed out and NTP end up with nothing.
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12-01-2005, 07:30 AM
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While I'm not defending NTP here, I don't believe that a patent holder should forfeit their patent simply because they've done nothing to develop or promote their invention.
If this were the case, wealthy corporations would be steam-rolling the small-time inventor everywhere...this would effectively end individual creativity.
Nonetheless, like it or not, the deck was stacked against RIM from the beginning. You've got a foreign company (RIM), and a backwoods judge and jury obviously looking out for their own. It stinks...
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12-01-2005, 07:57 AM
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The sad thing is that once RIM pays NTP a dump truck full of money to settle, the patents that RIM was found guilty on probably will be invalidated for good.
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12-01-2005, 08:01 AM
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IANAL, BUT, I suspect that if RIM pays, it will "validate" the patents.. Prior case law and what have you..
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12-01-2005, 08:17 AM
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NTP has no products, no discernable assets other than a file folder in a drawer. The way the patent system has gotten anything is up for grabs. I think i'm going to go out and patent a shoe.
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12-08-2005, 09:09 AM
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NTP should have never been allowed to have the patent in the first place. The USPTO needs a complete overhaul! NTP has never produced a working product, only ideas... IDEAS SHOULD NEVER BE F'ING PATENTED IN THE FIRST PLACE! That's like I have an idea everyone should have the ability to watch streaming media from a mobile device... if I had patented that 5 - 10 years ago, I could sue the living snot out of Verizon etc. etc. etc. based on an IDEA, not a product.
Patents suck unless you have a working product. I think that if you have an idea, you should be allowed to patent it, IF AND ONLY IF YOU produce a working product within 2 to 5 years. If that had been the case NTP would have been required to produce a working product... oh well. I'm just f'ing sick of NTP and hope that they die a slow painful death!
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12-08-2005, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by paulfr2
NTP has never produced a working product, only ideas... IDEAS SHOULD NEVER BE F'ING PATENTED IN THE FIRST PLACE!
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Couldn't have said it better!!!
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12-08-2005, 11:32 PM
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Couldn't agree with paulfr2 more. What this amounts to is another case of bureaucracy out of control.
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12-09-2005, 03:53 AM
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I don’t want to go on a rant but…..
I have to weigh in,
I don’t want to go on a rant here….. But …. Seriously how can anyone justify it all – I mean really what kind of a messed up world is it that somebody is able to ask 450 Million dollars for some idea that they did squat for! Think back to when this was being patented – you could get 75 bionic men for that kind of dough – remember the “six million” dollar man – I mean this is some serious coin people!!! My head spins when I think of how crazy this is – imagine if you are Mike Lazaridis and you are sitting around the dinner table with your kids and you had to explain this – I mean really complete lunacy – “Well you see there was this guy and he thought of sending something that had been around for ohhhhh 15 years already!!! – and well he thought it would be cool to send it to a pager and that is worth one BILLION dollars”. Do NTP put their little pinky beside the corner of their mouth when they say that – “I want one BILLION DOLLARS!” This whole thing makes me want to puke!!! When the US government is offering up 50 Million for public enemy number one – Osama – and these jokers at NTP think they are entitled to one Billion – it is seriously sick! Think about it RIM has to make way more than one Billion dollars in profit over the next couple years to justify a payout like that – I hope they roast in hell those NTP’ers.
I hope that the patents get thrown out and those blood-sucking-pieces-of-dog’ends NTP end up with a big fat zero and a whole lot of heart burn.
But hey that is only my two cents!
Cheers,
Eric
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Couldn't agree with paulfr2 more. What this amounts to is another case of bureaucracy out of control.
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12-09-2005, 03:14 PM
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I think the most disturbing issues are:
1. NTP is a holding company.
2. Thomas Campana Jr died a couple of years ago.
I have noticed that RIM is signing deals left and right outside of the U.S (Europe and Asia-Pacific). If they can muster enouph users and residual revenue from outside of the U.S I say pull the plug on the U.S users (including the government). By jeopordizing National security and the economy I think NTP's case would be done. This would be playing hard-ball, but in the U.S there are no other types of balls.
The root issue is that NTP's patents should have never been issued in the first place in my opinion.
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12-09-2005, 07:53 PM
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Well if 2 million people loose their BB service this NTP company better go hide in a hole somewhere lol.
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12-10-2005, 03:05 AM
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So sick of it I sold my BB and went back to a regular phone i got tired of the damn questions about what i was gonna do when I lost my BB
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