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jeremy 09-15-2008 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RemyJ (Post 1099824)
OK, here's the deal. It actually works fine on the Bold if you use a microscope to read the text. :)

The default font size is coming up as "1" which makes the text pretty much invisible. Go into Options and change the font size to something a little closer to normal (say 16) and everything should be fine. I'll correct the default size issue shortly.

Let me know how it works when on 3G.

I actually changed the font size a while ago. Prior to that, all I saw was a blank, white screen. Once I changed the font size, I could see the app normally but the Net, Svc and Id/Ch field still never populate for me--whether the phone is on EDGE or 3G.

Jeremy

RemyJ 09-15-2008 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jeremy (Post 1100996)
I actually changed the font size a while ago. Prior to that, all I saw was a blank, white screen. Once I changed the font size, I could see the app normally but the Net, Svc and Id/Ch field still never populate for me--whether the phone is on EDGE or 3G.

Jeremy

OK, I'm kinda stuck because all I have is the simulator and it's working as it should there. I'll monkey around a little more but until I get a real device it's a little hard to troubleshoot.

One thing you can check... If you go to "Network Details" do you get all the info on both 3G and Edge?

jeremy 09-15-2008 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RemyJ (Post 1101016)
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One thing you can check... If you go to "Network Details" do you get all the info on both 3G and Edge?


When I select Network Details in the menu, nothing happens, other than the Location updates stop for about 2 seconds.

gudujarlson 09-22-2008 05:23 PM

Source Code?
 
Where is the source code? I don't see it on the sourceforge site.

ChristopherRI 09-22-2008 07:01 PM

I tried to read the whole thread, but I don't know if this has been touched on yet. Some people were mentioning that they were on a cell cite in the middle of the atlantic.

I'm on Alltel and it does provide tower coordinates, which is great. The only thing is that the longitude displays as 80....., Whereas it should be -80...... The Negtive puts us in the correct hemisphere. So when I get the coordinates, I can plug them into google maps with the (-) and I get the correct location. However when I am trying to use the Signal Loc utility, it tells me I am 8,000 miles way from the cell site.

So here is the question. Are the towers broadcasting a longitude of (+)80....... or is the Signal Loc software displaying the coordinates as (+)80....... I ask because I wonder if there is a way to make the longitude coordinates negative (for those of us in North America) so that they will map correctly, etc...

RemyJ 09-23-2008 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by gudujarlson (Post 1110122)
Where is the source code? I don't see it on the sourceforge site.

Go to Download, Browse All packages, then clock on the packages (signallocbb). You'll see signalloc-src-0.1.776.zip

RemyJ 09-23-2008 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ChristopherRI (Post 1110219)
I tried to read the whole thread, but I don't know if this has been touched on yet. Some people were mentioning that they were on a cell cite in the middle of the atlantic.

I'm on Alltel and it does provide tower coordinates, which is great. The only thing is that the longitude displays as 80....., Whereas it should be -80...... The Negtive puts us in the correct hemisphere. So when I get the coordinates, I can plug them into google maps with the (-) and I get the correct location. However when I am trying to use the Signal Loc utility, it tells me I am 8,000 miles way from the cell site.

So here is the question. Are the towers broadcasting a longitude of (+)80....... or is the Signal Loc software displaying the coordinates as (+)80....... I ask because I wonder if there is a way to make the longitude coordinates negative (for those of us in North America) so that they will map correctly, etc...

I display exactly what the RIM API returns. Sprint had a tower close by me that was broadcasting an inverted sign which put the site in Mongolia. :) I called them and complained and they fixed it.

Is it only 1 site or are all Alltel sites broadcasting inverted signs?

Any other Alltel users out there?

someonexh 09-23-2008 06:36 AM

Sounds like a great app... Just have to get a GPS puck, or pay even more to Verizon.

RemyJ 09-23-2008 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by someonexh (Post 1110641)
Sounds like a great app... Just have to get a GPS puck, or pay even more to Verizon.

Thanks. Beware with Verizon though. It's hit or miss as to whether SignalLoc will work with VZnavigator running. It never worked for me.

someonexh 09-23-2008 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RemyJ (Post 1110650)
Thanks. Beware with Verizon though. It's hit or miss as to whether SignalLoc will work with VZnavigator running. It never worked for me.

:/ that stinks. Appreciate the info. (y)

gudujarlson 09-23-2008 11:39 AM

I downloaded 0.1.776 and installed it on my BlackBerry Curve 8310 (v4.2.2.170). The app starts up fine, but if I choose anything on the menu (even "About"), I get prompted to grant access to the GPS and when I select yes, the whole device hangs and I have to power cycle it. This happens every time.

cr0bar 09-23-2008 02:10 PM

I love this program, looks really good.

Ok, i've got it set up, GPS works fine, network is detected and i've got it set to save cell when location isn't invalid.

But it doesn't save to my list. Is it because i added this cell manually before then deleted it?

ChristopherRI 09-25-2008 04:28 PM

RemyJ,

Yeah I figured it was just a display of what the tower was broadcasting. It is all of Alltel's towers. They show the longitude as a (+) instead of a (-). It's not a big deal, I can still map the coordinates manually, but it would be cool to see how far away I actuall was from the tower.

RemyJ 09-25-2008 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ChristopherRI (Post 1114730)
RemyJ,

Yeah I figured it was just a display of what the tower was broadcasting. It is all of Alltel's towers. They show the longitude as a (+) instead of a (-). It's not a big deal, I can still map the coordinates manually, but it would be cool to see how far away I actuall was from the tower.

How about an "Invert Longitude Sign" option?
Give me a week.

Walterwt 10-05-2008 01:45 AM

FYI, it would appear software version 4.5 and above breaks the program. I had it running successfully on a Curve 8310, 8800 and pearl 8100. I upgraded all to 4.5 and now no signal information. My Bold will not return signal info either, although the GPS function works fine. Let me know if I can try anything to assist.

tbhuang2 10-05-2008 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Walterwt (Post 1125386)
FYI, it would appear software version 4.5 and above breaks the program. I had it running successfully on a Curve 8310, 8800 and pearl 8100. I upgraded all to 4.5 and now no signal information. My Bold will not return signal info either, although the GPS function works fine. Let me know if I can try anything to assist.

I'm running 4.5 on my 8130 and it's working fine. Maybe after upgrading, you forgot to enable "Carrier provides cell site location" or something. But I'm confused by your situation because this program is supposed to be only supported when using CDMA carriers (the 8310, 8100, and Bold all use GSM, not CDMA). The 8800 would work only if it's in CDMA mode.

RemyJ 10-05-2008 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Walterwt (Post 1125386)
FYI, it would appear software version 4.5 and above breaks the program. I had it running successfully on a Curve 8310, 8800 and pearl 8100. I upgraded all to 4.5 and now no signal information. My Bold will not return signal info either, although the GPS function works fine. Let me know if I can try anything to assist.

I've got it running on 4.5 just fine but one of my devices had the symptoms you describe and a simple battery pull fixed it. Give it a shot and let me know.

There's a problem with the Bold that happens on real devices but not in the simulator so it's kind of hard for me to troubleshoot. At least until AT&T gets off their collective butts and releases it in the US.

RemyJ 10-05-2008 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by tbhuang2 (Post 1125394)
I'm running 4.5 on my 8130 and it's working fine. Maybe after upgrading, you forgot to enable "Carrier provides cell site location" or something. But I'm confused by your situation because this program is supposed to be only supported when using CDMA carriers (the 8310, 8100, and Bold all use GSM, not CDMA). The 8800 would work only if it's in CDMA mode.

Everything except the cell site location works on GSM devices.

ifonline 10-05-2008 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RemyJ (Post 1125621)
Everything except the cell site location works on GSM devices.

Any idea why that is? This program is interesting, but having cell location data would make it even better.

RemyJ 10-05-2008 11:57 AM

CDMA networks use the GPS system as an integral part of their network. It provides critical synchronization timing and E911 location capability. CDMA cell sites therefore make their latitude and longitude available to handsets. GSM networks don't use the GPS system the same way and don't provide their location.


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