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dmead 03-24-2010 10:49 AM

the-economist reminds me of Tom Leykis.

daphne 03-24-2010 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by the-economist (Post 1584227)
Has nothing to do with respect...

You are wrong here... you are assuming that your belief, and only yours, is the correct belief. And you are pushing your beliefs on everyone in this thread by declaring eveyone else is wrong and you are right. That is lack of respect. Personally I don't care what you believe or don't believe, but you are being rude and disrespectful to others, and hijacking the thead.

How would you like it if someone came back at you and insisted, repeatedly, that you are wrong and are going to hell because you don't believe what they believe? I expect you you would not like it. But that is what you are doing to others by implying that yours is the only correct belief.

the-economist 03-24-2010 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jsconyers (Post 1584296)
@the-economist, I see your points, and I can't say that I fully agree or disagree with you.

Seriously? You can't? You're not sure at this point in your life if you gonna go for the gardens of eden and the talking snakes, and the people made out of clay, and the dead rising, and the 7 gates of hell or evolutionary biology?

hope this can help you

daphne 03-24-2010 11:19 AM

There you go again, acting as if you are superior and being demeaning to the OP. :?

the-economist 03-24-2010 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by daphne (Post 1584383)
How would you like it if someone came back at you and insisted, repeatedly, that you are wrong and are going to hell

Sorry darling, that only works on delusional people with imaginary friends. All my friends have flesh and bones.

the-economist 03-24-2010 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jsconyers (Post 1584296)
I had a conversation with her about this last night, telling her that I would like to regularly start attending church with her.

I see you already made up your mind so there is really no point taking the thread further. Good luck.

the-economist 03-24-2010 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dmead (Post 1584377)
the-economist reminds me of Tom Leykis.

He had a radio show, right? Was he any good?

dmead 03-24-2010 11:31 AM

yes he had a radio show. It was amusing. amusing enough to keep me tuned in every day for 8 years. anyway your shtick reminds me of him. occasionaly he would have an hour or two of his sho called "Ask the Atheist' callers would ask him various questions about atheism or his beliefs in specific. good listening.

anywho back on topic

the-economist 03-24-2010 12:01 PM

Thanks, i found the rss feed on westwoodone and Podtrapper is hard at work pulling the episodes. ;-)

jsconyers 03-24-2010 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by the-economist (Post 1584409)
I see you already made up your mind so there is really no point taking the thread further. Good luck.

No, my mind isn't made up. It is open to experiencing new things, unlike yours. I think you have misinterpreted this thread. I didn't ask if God existed, but that is where you seem to be taking it.

the-economist 03-24-2010 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jsconyers (Post 1584450)
No, my mind isn't made up. It is open to experiencing new things, unlike yours. I think you have misinterpreted this thread. I didn't ask if God existed, but that is where you seem to be taking it.

I'm aware your question wasn't about the existence or not of a deity. Your question was if you should support her belief in a postulated supernatural immortal being although by your own statement in your first post you don't really believe.

I never tried to convince you of anything. You declared yourself a non-believer in your very first post.

I just gave you ideas how to better present the scientific method to your partner. You said you 're not religious and she is. I told you cool, there is no point in pretending or suffering mass in silence, just TALK to her.

A couple of posts down and suddenly you're not sure. What exactly you're not sure of? If you should still support her belief to the deity, or of your own belief?

jsconyers 03-24-2010 12:56 PM

No, I am sure I want to be supportive of her an her beliefs. I am not sure about religion in general. That hasn't changed. Will it? I don't know.

Just because you don't believe, doesn't mean I should tell her what she believes is false. You came to that conclusion on your own and she came to hers on her own.

JSanders 03-24-2010 02:02 PM

Seems the-economist has nicely managed to make this thread about himself and his beliefs, even to tell the OP that he is wrong about he was asking.

JS, sounds to me like the-economist is as rabid an evangelist for his "nothing" belief, as any I've seen strongholded in Waco, TX, or shrilling around the Ayatolla Khomeini thirty years ago. The only difference is the chosen dogma.

the-economist 03-24-2010 02:31 PM

JSanders i'm really sorry but i can't really take you seriously anymore. Not after that "a few years ago upon understanding that God loves us all equally, and really all He wants is a relationship with us".

You maintain communication links of mutual understanding of wishes and desires with entities that don't register as organic matter. I could not possibly discuss anything with you, i'm not state licensed. You need a professional.

I would appreciate though if you so wish to comment on my postings to do it directly to me rather through a proxy.

kindly,

daphne 03-24-2010 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by the-economist (Post 1584608)
JSanders i'm really sorry but i can't really take you seriously anymore. Not after that "a few years ago upon understanding that God loves us all equally, and really all He wants is a relationship with us".

You maintain communication links of mutual understanding of wishes and desires with entities that don't register as organic matter. I could not possibly discuss anything with you, i'm not state licensed. You need a professional.

I would appreciate though if you so wish to comment on my postings to do it directly to me rather through a proxy.

kindly,

the-economist,

If you don't want your postings commented on in a public forum, then you should not post them in a public forum.

JSanders 03-24-2010 02:58 PM

@the-economist, this isn't about you, and what you can take seriously. It appears you can't get a grip on the fact that everything around here is NOT about you.

the-economist 03-24-2010 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by daphne (Post 1584632)
the-economist,

If you don't want your postings commented on in a public forum, then you should not post them in a public forum.

Where exactly did i say i don't want my postings commented upon? :?

the-economist 03-24-2010 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JSanders (Post 1584634)
@the-economist, this isn't about you, and what you can take seriously. It appears you can't get a grip on the fact that everything around here is NOT about you.

I never claimed otherwise.

JSanders 03-24-2010 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by the-economist (Post 1584608)

I would appreciate though if you so wish to comment on my postings to do it directly to me rather through a proxy.

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Originally Posted by the-economist (Post 1584638)
Where exactly did i say i don't want my postings commented upon? :?

Enough.

juwaack68 03-24-2010 07:06 PM

I miss all the fun lately. That's what I get for getting an iPhone and not booting up my laptop in the evenings.....

jsconyers, I'll echo what others (not all others, mind you) have offered. If you like her, really, really like her, give it a chance. Large churches can certainly be overwhelming, and smaller doesn't always mean better, sometimes it just means...smaller. You may like it, or you may tolerate it, or you may sigh when you think about it, or you may wind up stopping. You won't be 'out' anything if you go, and you might even find you like it, if you find the right place to go.


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