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ezrunner 12-03-2009 04:49 PM

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Wtf! EZ is personally angry about this! How can flying the American flag on an appropriate flag be aesthetically unappealing?

This man was awarded the congressional medal of honor, fought in thre wars to defend the very freedoms we enjoy and he can't fly the symbol of our nation?

F-you home owners association



This guy has his own wikipedia page because his efforts in combat

judging by the comments left in the below article he has much support
He certainl has this Marine Veterans support

http://hamptonroads.com/2009/12/90yearold-medal-honor-winner-battles-keep-flag-pole.

JSanders 12-03-2009 04:57 PM

link is broken.

That is pitiful. The homeowner's association should be charged with raising and lowering the flag each day at sun and sun down for the hero.

jsconyers 12-03-2009 06:18 PM

That is absurd that he cannot fly the American flag. Absolutely absurd!

Here's the link: Richmond WWII vet gains supporters in flagpole battle | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com

monkeypaw 12-03-2009 11:38 PM

This kind of stuff just pisses me off. Even if its technically not allowed, they should just live with it out of respect. The guy isn't going to be around much longer and seems like he's earned the right to a little leeway.

Yeah I know if you don't enforce it, you open the way for other people to ignore the association rules, but is that the side to be on? Forcing an elderly Medal of Honor winner to take down his flag?

craig3010 12-04-2009 12:46 AM

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This pissed me off just reading the headline the other day. WWII Vet. Medal of Honor, no less. He could take a whiz in the bushes when he gets his morning paper for all I care, he's EARNED the right to do whatever he damn well pleases as far as I'm concerned. He doesn't have very many years left as it is, treat him like the hero he is.
Can't we just take up a collection to send him a supersized flag, say 100'x50'?

dmead 12-04-2009 01:00 AM

you brought up an interesting point there monkeypaw. on the one hand you have a man who's more than earned the right to do whatever the f%##@ he wants. on the other you have the HOA who has in their bylaws/rules/whatever he signed the verbage that states no flagpoles in the front yard. what do you do? if the by laws also state you can't paint your house bright orange then who's to stop someone from doing that if they let the old vet keep his flagpole.

this argument isn't about the american flag at all really, it's about whether or not some one is allowed a flagpole in their front lawn. i am pretty sure that the HOA allows some way to display the flag but from what i have manged to find on the news topic a permanent flag pole in the ground isn't one of them.

would i give the old vet a break? hell yeah! would i give the old codger down the street a break if he chooses lime green for his shutter paint? well now i have a problem. how to accommodate the both of them. you simply can't.

now don't get me wrong HOA laws rub me wrong no matter how you look at it. however if you buy into a neighborhood with them then well there really isn't much you can do. you could have bought elsewhere. Or you take it to the press if you feel you are really being wronged. as is the case here.

this man fought for real freedom. the kind of freedom we can only dream about these days. he'll prevail in one way or another i have no doubt, because he fought a fight many years ago that threatened more than his right to cement his front lawn. he brought down the very face of evil in ww2.

whether he is forced to remove a pole from his lawn or he gets to keep it, he has done more fighting in one hour of his life than ANY one has done in the last 25 years.

/rant over

ezrunner 12-04-2009 07:00 AM

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Not a fan of HOA's you buy a house and land and you are restricted to what you can do on your own property!
Lived in one once as a renter and we were told that we couldn't park in the driveway vehicle had to be in the garage! WTF
What is a driveway for? So we parked on the street which upset them but not much they could do as the roads were city property!

What really irritates is that they say the flap pole in unaesthetic. To me that is purely subjective or their opinion!
I think it is beautiful particularly when the flag is flying upon it!

kathrynhr 12-04-2009 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmead (Post 1520410)
this argument isn't about the american flag at all really, it's about whether or not some one is allowed a flagpole in their front lawn. i am pretty sure that the HOA allows some way to display the flag but from what i have manged to find on the news topic a permanent flag pole in the ground isn't one of them.

This.

Vets haven't just earned their own freedom, they earned everyone else's as well. That's one of the cool things about being a vet.

Like it or not, this guy's service also bought permission for the HOA to act like b***ards (sorry). Past service to one's country is no excuse to break a contract, which is essentially what his HOA membership is.

A wise HOA that wanted to attract good families to their neighborhood would give this man a pass. Because they won't do that, they won't have that opportunity. The only people who will want to live there now are people who care more about the appearance of homes than about the people who live in them. Not a place I'd choose to raise my family, that's for sure...

I'd say they've done the very thing they were trying to avoid: driven down the value of homes in the neighborhood.


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