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TBOLTRAM 12-19-2010 05:42 PM

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I wonder what the religious types would do if an alien spaceship did land and the occupants declared that we ain't special.

I have pondered the possible implications on more than one occasion.

mriff 03-16-2011 07:06 AM

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It's back....

Florida Citizens for Science Blog Archive The return of the Florida antievolution bill

TBOLTRAM 03-16-2011 12:39 PM

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I think I figured out what the conservative types are attacking education. They don't want anyone smarter than them.

djm2 03-16-2011 02:24 PM

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This is so sad. What is the forecast for the odds of that bill's success in the FL legislature?

mriff 03-16-2011 02:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TBOLTRAM (Post 1708023)
I think I figured out what the conservative types are attacking education. They don't want anyone smarter than them.

I could say something mean here, but I'll hold back. :smile:

mriff 03-16-2011 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by djm2 (Post 1708057)
This is so sad. What is the forecast for the odds of that bill's success in the FL legislature?

He submitted the same bill last year, and it failed. The difference this year is that he has buried this attempt in another larger bill. And softened the language so as to make it almost benign. But it's still a threat and an opening for mischief if it were to pass. Which is entirely his intention.

djm2 03-17-2011 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mriff (Post 1708062)
He submitted the same bill last year, and it failed. The difference this year is that he has buried this attempt in another larger bill. And softened the language so as to make it almost benign. But it's still a threat and an opening for mischief if it were to pass. Which is entirely his intention.

Was there a dramatic shift in the FL legislature from the elections, and if so does this increase the probability?

mriff 03-17-2011 04:32 PM

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There was a shift, not so dramatic. It was already very conservative. Now more so. Republican Governor. So yes, it is worrisome.

mriff 06-15-2011 10:29 AM

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The bill failed. Again. Cooler heads prevailed.

jordanmike 06-15-2011 11:39 AM

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Having said that, religion and politics in the same thread, this could get ugly.[/QUOTE]

you got a deep understanding of this

mriff 06-15-2011 12:22 PM

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Interesting thread huh? Rather passionate in places. Funny in others. We even threw in college football at one point.

mriff 06-18-2011 03:00 PM

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A very common argument from ID'ers.

Bachmann: Schools should teach intelligent design CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

"I support intelligent design," Bachmann told reporters in New Orleans following her speech to the Republican Leadership Conference. "What I support is putting all science on the table and then letting students decide. I don't think it's a good idea for government to come down on one side of scientific issue or another, when there is reasonable doubt on both sides."

I support putting all science on the table as well. And if you do actually put all ideas supported by sound science on the table then what you get is the Theory of Evolution. Nothing else makes the cut. She managed to get all common misconceptions about evolution in three sentences. :?

djm2 06-20-2011 06:23 PM

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Mriff, I'm sure you'd agree that ID wouldn't even get on the table simply because it does not cut it as a scientific explanation.

mriff 06-20-2011 06:34 PM

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Yep. It can't be tested. If it could, and the science behind gained status as a theory, then the discovering scientists would be famous. The Discovery Institute can't come up with any peer reviewed science, which is their oft stated goal. So we're still waiting.

mriff 06-22-2011 11:01 PM

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Interesting!

Darryl Cunningham Investigates: Evolution

djm2 06-23-2011 11:51 AM

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Thanks for posting that link. It was a fascinating presentation.

mriff 06-23-2011 06:44 PM

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Got it from Roger Eberts facebook page. He got into the whole debate while critiquing 'Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed'.

mriff 06-26-2011 09:32 AM

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Isaac Asimov was a pretty smart guy. He wrote this back in 1984. Things haven't changed much.

Isaac Asimov "The 'Threat' of Creationism," 1984

djm2 07-04-2011 10:54 AM

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Good humor and appropriate for this discussion:

Georgia School Board Bans 'Theory Of Math' | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

:razz:

mriff 07-04-2011 02:13 PM

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Too funny. And now this important announcement from Earth: Planet Earth Doesn't Know How To Make It Any Clearer It Wants Everyone To Leave | The Onion - America's Finest News Source


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