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When I access the GPS details screen and then Click the Escape button, the app hangs, and freezes my phone.
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I had passed on the 8800 and pearl as I moved through and up devices, and took their word that the program wasn't working. I will verify in the morning. On the bold, the GPS works great and I know the tower location would not work because of the network specifics.
I did turn on logging on the program just in case it was helpful, otherwise I understand November 4th is when AT&T will finally roll out the Bold. The firmware has progressed through so many versions since the emulator was released, I can understand why it would not work. Good luck! |
Any updates on a version that might work with the Bold? I had this on my 8820, it is a nice utility.
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I'm hoping to have a Bold in hand in a few weeks.
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Wow RemyJ, thanks for the very quick reply. I have used your program on my 8820 and loved it. Thanks for all your hard work on this program. Do you plan to take it commercial?
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Font size is extremely small, had to set it to 18 in the options. That's 10 more then I use normally to have the normal size. I had to do a battery pull before it would open. GPA details shows 0s for everything or not yet valid when switching to main screen.
I love it!!! Saved locations with Google Maps to get directions back there!!! Great for hiking or a favorite boat launch when there are no addresses. |
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Excellent, keep us posted.
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you can use an application called FindMyLocation on handango to find your location using cell towers
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RemyJ, hows the new bold and progress on an updated version coming?
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There'll be a new release this weekend.
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Signal-Location Utility version 1.0.1002 Released
With this release, I've move SignalLoc to the f5bbutil SourceForge project where KeePass for BlackBerry also resides.
-------------------------------------------- Signal-Location Utilities for BlackBerry **Fixed** 2433834 No radio info on Bold 2433840 Font sizes aren't synched to general blackberry options **New Features** 2433844 Use Google to find location of GSM cell sites 2433900 Add online help |
what network information is shown in 3G?
i havent installed it yet, but before doing that, i would like to know if it displays Scrambling Codes, ECIO and CellIDs. RSSI you got covered from the sceener i saw :) Thanks in advance |
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Thank you for building this for the Bold. Having the app back, especially with the addition of GSM cell location, is great. (y) FYI, I noticed that it seems that Loc information will stay the same when a new sector or cell comes along and there isn't Loc info for the new cell. In other words, it looks like the Cell Loc info may not age properly. Jeremy |
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Oh yeah, it's also possible that Google is reporting the same lat/lon for the new site OR, the same physical base station is broadcasting two different cell ids.
If you give me the CELLID and LAC of the new and old cell sites, I can look them up manually. |
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Signal Location Utility is a great application! Thanks for providing it to us RemyJ.
Here are a couple of details regarding my current connection that I would like to see added:
I would also like an application that listed information regarding other network towers in the area that would display:
I am currently using a program called "CellFinder" on my T-Mobile G1 (Android) phone. That application has several of those features. You can read more about CellFinder at GoogleCode and Codeastrophe. Also, a question about SignalLoc: In Network Details on my 9000, it shows the carrier as "AT&T." However, in the fields for MCC and MNC, it shows 784 and 1040. Shouldn't those fields contain 310 and 380? Again, I really appreciate your good work, RemyJ! I hope you find some ideas for future enhancements from this post. |
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Is there any chance of allowing the main screen to scroll down, so us folks with old eyes can use a larger font? |
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@RemyJ... I have never seen a developer so in touch with their user base. Keep up the good work!
Thx.. |
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RemyJ, Thanks again for all the work on this. I also would love to see frequency.
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This app is awesome, thanks so much!
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Trying latest build on Bold.
I've been praying for an app like this and had no idea that one existed. I've been having ongoing issues with my carrier (Optus Australia) and they won't admit that they've got major network issues in my area (even though majority of my colleagues on Optus have the same issue). This is exactly what I've been needing, now I can give them exact network details... When trying to "view all on map" it comes up with an error. Also, I can view saved sites (have set it to automatically save all new sites except for unidentified ones), but can't work out the "view saved locations"; how do you actually save locations? EDIT: Realised saved locations is actually "Auto Save location" (sorry) |
Thanks for this neat little app...I will play with it more when I get out of work tonight...(y)
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So can view multiple locations on BBMaps; ok. I am using a Bold (OS:4.6.0.190) I did try the open multiple, but because I don't have BBMaps installed (using Google), it obviously won't be able to open it. I'm loving the functionality. One question, the "write debug messages..." option, what is that used for? I'm hoping to be able to track where I'm having call dropout issues on my carrier's network. Will it log this type of info? |
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RemJ, I have been using your app on my Bold for a while and have noticed a bug (I think). It often takes me several attempts to start/stop the application before the long/lat of the cell site will come up even though I may be sitting in the same location. Also along the same issue, if I can get the long/late to come up, when I am driving, if I see the phone change to a new cell site, the long/late does not update to the new tower, it seems to be the same as the last tower. If you would like for me to do any logging, debugging, etc (you will need to tell me how), I am happy to get you more info.
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Amazing app! Thanks.
This appeals to the inner geek within :) |
Does it only give you current locations when you open googlemaps? Or can you set it to give you realtime turn by turn location? The only way it works for me is to get my exact location by going into the program and clicking to show my location on the map. If I just try to use googlemaps normally, it will still only give a location radius of 1100 or so meters
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Where or how are the cell site locations read? Are the lat/long transmitted within the info the cell site sends out? Or is a lookup done from the cell id over the net?
It's very interesting to see the location of the nearby sites around me! One of them shows smack bang on the roof of a nearby school, which I am surprised about. Thanks again Mike |
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Second, there are cases where the cell id will change but show the same location. Either the carrier is broadcasting 2 different cell ids from the same physical location, or Google doesn't have the correct location. If it happens all the time, then there's another problem. Give the timeout a try and see what happens. If it doesn't help, let me know and we'll do more troubleshooting. |
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I'm using the new 8350i Curve on the Nextel network. Will this utility work on this phone?
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Unfortunately, this program doesn't support the Nextel network. I don't have any device to test with and the simulators aren't that great with iDEN support. Sorry.
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I open the signal-loc program, and let it read my location. Then I go to "show current loc on map" (which I have set in the options to use googlemaps) Googlemaps opens, and shows my current location So my question was if googlemaps is suppose to continuously use the signal-loc program to constantly update and show your location while you're moving? Or is it only supposed to show you that one specific location when you choose the "show current loc on map"? |
Ah. Now I understand.
When SignalLoc opens GoogleMaps, it's just passing in a single set of coordinates and asking GoogleMaps to view that location. While GoogleMaps is showing that location, it's also doing what it would do if you opened it from the homescreen...finding your location using the GPS and database lookups directly. It does not use SignalLoc for anything. |
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Glad to hear!
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just a quick question... I have the blackberry storm, and your app works pretty good considering that its not made for it, but the thing that i dont get is why it wont tell me the lat and lon of ANY of my towers...
any ideas? ps my carrier is Verizon... ps2 haha everything else shows up fine. |
Sending TXT or email with Lat/Lon data?
Want to be able to easily send a quick TXT or email with my Lat/Lon data. This data would be posted to a web page like location.clectar.com or clectcar.com/location
This feature will be used when running late to save a voice call. I know this is a feature of the new Palm is there a Blackberry App? Also the raw GPS data my 8820 from AT&T does not show altitude? Is there an altimeter application? |
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I don't have a problem getting altitude on my 8820. Is it missing on both the main screen and the GPS Details? |
I keep gettiing error code on the OTA download. Can you repost correct one? Thanks!
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I just re-uploaded the file but it looks like it's still not working. I'm still checking.
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so guys..u need GPS to use this app right?
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So this won't show cell site locations if my carrier is verizon?
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Unfortunately, correct.
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The board adds the "..." in the display of the url but the link itself is correct. Right click on the link and do a copy link location.
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I had this program up and running great, then I was trying to change a few of the options and had a misclick and now can't get it to work. I accidentaly changed one of the distance parameters fro 1.0 kilometers to 0.1.0 and now get the error
WorkerLocation Java.lang.NumberFormatException: multiple points This error stops me from doing anything in the program (such as going back into the options to fix my mistake). I have also deleted and reinstalled the program many times both directly from the device and using the Desktop Manager. No matter what I do that same error pops up. Any idea on how I could fix this? |
Oops. My fault for allowing the multiple decimal points.
If you have a recent backup, you can do a selective restore from it using the desktop manager. Open "Backup and Restore" and click on Advanced. On the left side, open the recent backup file, navigate to SignalLoc Options1 and press the ">>" button. You should now be able to get back into the app. If you don't have a backup, I'll make a fix and get it out tonight. |
Wirelessly posted
Just got the phone a few days ago, so I hadn't created a backup yet. I'll make sure to get the updated version when you post it...absolutely loved the program, great job with it. On a related note, the reason I was messing with the options was to try and get it to update realtime in googlemaps..is that possible? |
SignalLoc v 1.0 - Build 1.0.1116 - Released February 6 2009
**Fixed** 000004 The auto add distance option fields accepts multiple decimal points |
I have it loaded on my BB Pearl 8130, carrier Verizon. I live in a rural area,but have great cell phone service. I have read about the limitations with Verizon. How can I maximize the use of it; how do I get the best out of the options; do I use it with Google Maps or Blackberry Maps; does having VZ Navigator affect the performance. I never get a GPS acknowledged on any application except BB maps (or at least I don't think I do!).
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Fix worked great...thanks for the quick response!!
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I have the latest version and I can't get the tower location to work. I am on a gsm provider and have all the cell tower options turned on in options. Google maps detects my location so it should be in the database right? I have hit a least a dozen towers and it won't locate any of them.
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How would you go about checking googles database manually with cell id/channel string?
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AFAIK there's no online tool where you can enter the info but you can write a small program to do it for you. Here's a quick Java program that takes the cellid and lac as arguments and looks them up... If you get coordinates from Google but not from SignalLoc, first make sure you have the latest version of SignalLoc, then post here if it still doesn't work. |
Lol. No I am in Montana. I have the latest version of SignalLoc.
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Also post the MNC.
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I'm trying to figure out how to run this java program lol. Do I have to know code or am I just being dense?
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Here's a screenshot of my saved tower list. Do you need more info then that?
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Well, I got valid lat/lon for each of the entries so I'm not sure what's going on.
Under Options/Cell Site, set the options to yes, yes, yes, yes, no. ALso change the cell site location timeout to 20. See if that helps. |
I have it all like you say. I have played with the cell site location timeout also. I have tried all the way up to 50. The last while has been on 20. Thanks for your time and effort so far. I really hope I can get it working.
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Just donwloaded the software using the OTA link and it works great. I installed it on a Bold. As a suggestion, if this software could record all the data it recieves (cell id, RSSI etc) as well as time and position into one log file it would rival comercial software used by Ericsson and Nokia. There is enough memory on the memory card where this log file could be saved to. I work in telecom and the ability to view this log file would help in troubleshooting coverage gaps as well as handover failures from one cell site sector to another.
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What need to change on the customer setting when using oTA?
Just download it... AT&T service, but didn't see anything on locaton, site,...... |
SignalLoc v 1.0 - Build 1.0.1134 - Released March 1 2009
SignalLoc v 1.0 - Build 1.0.1134 - Released March 1 2009
**Added** 0000007: Create continuous logging capability 0000008: Create capability to force sign on lat,lon,alt |
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Still haven't got the tower location working yet on gsm. I have it on my Alltel blackberry and it works great. I noticed in a previous post that the tower location don't work on verizon. I changed the nam programming so it would use vzw towers and found that it did work on verizons network. So is it vzw software on their blackberries or what makes it not work for vzw customers?
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The tower location worked fine on my 8900 with TMO USA with the first version that you posted but since I upgraded to your latest 1134 build I have not been able to get the tower location. Would the first version still be available? I would like to give it a try again if possible. Thanks.
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I went back to build 1116 last night and set the loc timeout to 10 and still no luck. Tried it again this morning and all worked fine. Really strange. Thanks for the help.
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Hello,
Thanks for the great application and great features, could you please let me know which applications you have used to develope this application? Many Thanks Ahmad |
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Thanks Remy
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Does the tower location with gsm need an apn to work? My carrier does not have an apn for there blackberry phones? I have not had any luck yet getting tower location info to work yet on Cellular One gsm network. Works perfect on Alltels.
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If other apps have network connectivity, then signalloc should also. I'm not sure what else to tell you.
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RemyJ, first thanks very much for this application, I've been searching for something like this for BB for a while and google never pointed me to this!!
I downloaded the file (.1134) When I go to options and make any changes and attempt to exit I select "save" for my changes but it never goes back to the main screen, it stays in the options menu. When I launch the program I do get network information on the mainscreen at the top I can decipher the ID/ch to find the cell and sector, 3rd set of numbers on that line up? when I start moving I get location,altitude,speed,heading. The cell Site field stays blank, is this supposed to populate with the cell site number? I'm using a blackberry bold on the at&t network, if this helps any. Thanks again... |
Just press the escape/back key to get out of options. If you've made a change, you'll get prompted to save and you'll be taken back to the main screen.
In options, make sure that "Enable cell site location" and "Use Google for GSM Cell location" are both set to "yes". That'll enable you to see the cell site lat/lon and if you also have a good GPS fix, you'll see the distance and heading to the tower from your current location. Look at the Network Details screen to see the details of the ID/CH line on the main screen |
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I think I didnt clearly explain the issue I'm having. I can go to options and I have selected the changes, when I select escape the window pops up to save the settings I made but does not leave the options menu. Every time I try to exit the window keeps poping up and I end up selecting discard to leave the options menu. After discarding changes I can go back into options and a few but not all changes I made were kept. Enable cell site location: yes Use google for gsm cell location: yes export format changed to csv: yes cell site loc timeout changed to 10: no did not take the change enable continous logging changed to yes: no did not take the change selecting log file location I pointed this to my sd card 16GB, and named a file. the change did not save auto start continous logging changed to yes: no did not take the change Even with the cell location and using google the field at the bottom of the screen "cell site" the field remains blank. I have information in all the other fields: current, location, altitude, speed, and heading. let me know if I'm doing something wrong. Thanks, |
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