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BeefyBeefo 05-12-2008 05:25 PM

Hey John, I apologize if this has been asked before. I searched this thread and didn't come up with anything. As I mentioned above a few weeks ago, this process helped me out tremendously with my used BB. I know in the first post in this thread you say that you cannot use BT keyboards after completing this process and that doesn't bother me at all. My question is, can I use a BT GPS Puck after implementing the Blank IT Policy? I'm interested in getting the Freedom keychain unit. I appreciate your time, thanks!

-Jeff-

John Clark 05-12-2008 05:38 PM

Wirelessly posted (BB 11020)

Yes, you'll be able to use a BT puck. Good luck!

BeefyBeefo 05-12-2008 05:39 PM

Now that's what I wanted to hear :) Thanks a lot, John.

-Jeff-

Chitown021 05-18-2008 09:06 AM

Thanks for creating this thread John. I just became a BB user thanks to my dad (he game me his old 8700g when he upgraded) and I'm learning as I go. The device he gave me had a policy locking the password to enabled and the lockout to happen every 2 minutes. I haven't used your procedure yet but I have it bookmarked in case dad has any issues getting the IT dept to send a blank policy.

EDIT: John, I used this process and it worked like a charm! I checked and can now disable the password, change the lockout timer from that annoying 2 min, and despite your warning in the OP it DID unlock the bluetooth keyboard option (it lets me change it to ALLOW). The only setting I noticed that was still locked is FIREWALL. The Blackberry will not let me change it from ENABLE.

THANK YOU!!!!

TroyDBrown 05-25-2008 08:40 PM

John,

Sorry if I missed a post. I have a new 8120 running 4.3.115. I installed BBAlerts and it did not work for my SMS messages. I noticed my FireWall was enabled with a Red lock next to it.

I followed the steps in the first post:
Note: (Added 05/03/2008) If your device has OS 4.3 or higher you can use JL_Cmder's "resettofactory" command to remove ALL IT policy, Firewall restrictions and Application Permission settings. Simply backup the device using Desktop Manager, close Desktop Manager, then run JL_Cmder and execute the "resettofactory" command. The device will wipe, then reboot leaving the OS, 3rd party apps but no data AND, best of all, NO IT policy whatsoever. When you're done, simply restore your backup and you're good to go with no policy or locked firewall.

This removed the lock. Everything now worked fine.

I restored my backup and the FireWall was enabled again with a lock and the original problem again. I am on BIS, phone is new, never been connected to a BES and shows no policies. Any ideas?

I am probably going to just follow the steps and sync and not reload the backup.

Thanks,

Troy

John Clark 05-25-2008 09:12 PM

Have you EVER used the other Remove IT Policy method? Is it possible the old policy.bin file is still on your computer from that procedure?

TroyDBrown 05-25-2008 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Clark (Post 943798)
Have you EVER used the other Remove IT Policy method? Is it possible the old policy.bin file is still on your computer from that procedure?

Yes I have. My computer gets many firends BlackBerry's attached to it for various reasons. I did remove an IT Policy off my friends 7230 two days ago using your blank policy and registry edit.

John Clark 05-25-2008 09:29 PM

Go back and remove that policy. It's being applied to each BB you connect to the Desktop Manager. You ONLY want it applied to a BB that you are removing a more restrictive policy from. That's the last part of the instructions. ;-)

TroyDBrown 05-25-2008 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Clark (Post 943819)
Go back and remove that policy. It's being applied to each BB you connect to the Desktop Manager. You ONLY want it applied to a BB that you are removing a more restrictive policy from. That's the last part of the instructions. ;-)

Thank you so much and please forgive me. I will forgive you for throwing me off by putting the final instruction in BOLD RED. :oops:

Chitown021 05-25-2008 10:49 PM

John, when I applied the procedure outlined in the OP should it have left the firewall option locked? Before I applied the fix the password was locked on ENABLE, the security timeout was locked on "2 MIN", and the firewall was locked on ENABLE. After I followed the steps firewall was the only option that remained locked.

jeffbutts 05-26-2008 10:32 PM

thanks
 
dont know if this will help but i was thinking it said .......rename path.now.......not rename path(.period)now.....:idea:

jeffbutts 05-26-2008 11:02 PM

i have done the steps over and over again to no result but i am getting this at the end of the last step can someone tell me what it is and how to fix it?my e mail is [email address] thanx
Warnings were encountered during the loading process:

The following modules could not be loaded because their digital signatures were invalid.

KnJCDE.cod

John Clark 05-27-2008 04:28 AM

Jeff, That is a module for Push To Talk. I'm not sure why it's telling you the signature is invalid, though. If you don't need it you can remove it using my method in my "Optimize your BB" thread. You can find a link to it in my signature.

John Clark 05-27-2008 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chitown021 (Post 943891)
John, when I applied the procedure outlined in the OP should it have left the firewall option locked? Before I applied the fix the password was locked on ENABLE, the security timeout was locked on "2 MIN", and the firewall was locked on ENABLE. After I followed the steps firewall was the only option that remained locked.

Unless you are using the "resettofactory" method (only available on 4.3 and higher OS devices) you will NOT be able to unlock the firewall. Sorry....This is the best there is.

Chitown021 05-28-2008 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Clark (Post 945056)
Unless you are using the "resettofactory" method (only available on 4.3 and higher OS devices) you will NOT be able to unlock the firewall. Sorry....This is the best there is.

Thanks John. That's what I was afraid you'd say. Maybe once my carrier updates to OS 4.3 I can use the other method and disable it then.

chm0690 05-29-2008 07:24 PM

Does this lead to the browser not being available. I have tried everything here and at what crackberry says to try and I do not have my media net or browser available to me. Any suggestions or am I just not following through on the steps here

John Clark 05-29-2008 07:31 PM

Go to Options >Advanced Options >Host Routing Table >Menu key (left of trackball) and select "Register Now." If you have a BB data plan that should bring back your browsers, etc.

chm0690 05-29-2008 07:45 PM

Appreciate the help. Finally found my problem plus with your input got my bb back to working condition. Might be a newbie mistake on my part, but JL_Cmder must be 1.9.0 for everything to work. I was using an older version of it. Once again thanks

rseem 06-01-2008 03:48 PM

Thanks so much for this thread and all the research and work that went into it. I found myself with an old IT policy on my 8100 after recently leaving my company. Following this approach with John's policy.bin freed up my 8100 nicely. I really liked that the policy.bin code is published so I could see the settings applied through it.

There is one area that is still not working however. I cannot enable Bluetooth access to the desktop manager. I have confirmed I have all the prerequiste software level etc and the problem seems to amount to the "Desktop Connectivity" and "Wireless Bypass" services not being enabled in the 8100's Bluetooth Options. This is fairly well discussed in threads on this and other forums as a common result of a IT Policy hangover.

In looking at the instructions on blackberry.com on how to enable bluetooth into desktop manager it talks about the IT Policy restrictions stating:
"If you have an account on a BlackBerry Enterprise Server, it must be running BlackBerry Enterprise Server software version 4.0.3 or later, and the following IT policies must be set to FALSE:
  • Disable Desktop Connectivity
  • Disable Wireless Bypass
Note: The two policies are located in the Bluetooth Policy Group. The default setting for these policies is TRUE."
Since my 8100 was subject to an old IT policy I am assuming the default settings of True are in effect to disable desktop connectivity and wireless bypass.

The article alludes to a "Bluetooth Policy Group" that can be set in the IT Policy. My ultimate question (thanks for the patience so far) is whether the current blank policy.bin code could be extended to have a "Bluetooth Policy Group" with settings of False for "Disable Desktop Connectivity" and "Disable Wireless Bypass".

Thanks again. It's great to have an apportunity to discuss this and I apologize if this is a redundant post.

John Clark 06-01-2008 08:56 PM

I understand the request. However, the code for the bluetooth is not in the policy creator I've used. It's simply the policy writer from BES express. If I knew what the code was it's possible that it could be inserted and compiled into the policy.bin. There is a thread going in the BBUnite forum about writing policies for BBUnite! and it's possible that one of those policies might do the trick. However, I've not looked at this in quite some time.

Once OS 4.5 comes out (it's out there in beta) you can use the resettofactory command in JL_Cmder to remove ALL policy and restrictions from the BB device. However, you have to have OS 4.3 or 4.5 loaded on the device.


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