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The evolution of plant life, including trees, is well studied. Massive volumes of information has been written about it. Shall I post up some information for you Dawg? It is so plain to see that plant live has evolved over time. Evolution is all around you my friend. In this very second. You are just blind to it.
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Now, again, please present evidence that supports your statements regarding the fossil record. I'm still waiting. And not holding my breath.
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Here's the last sentence from the page I quoted yesterday from Catholic.com.
The Catholic Church has no fear of science or scientific discovery. |
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I can write that my computer desk turned into a sportscar that doesnt make it true. The burden of proof is on the evolutionist. I can look around everyday and see Gods work. And you denounce Gods work every time you say something evolves. If he didnt create everything then why do you need him? |
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Like I said, I could post up anything you want, but it would be useless. You would not read it. You ignored my post about plant evolution. There are many countless volumes of information on this subject. Look outside. That Magnolia tree you see? That represents a very primitive family of trees. That Oak tree? Much more advanced from an evoltionary perspective. Like I said, I'd tell you more, but you wouldn't listen. |
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And I have asked you where God fits in to all of your theory. What is God to you? But you seem to avoid that question as well. If you are a Christian as you say you are you shouldnt be ashamed oif God. It plainly states that if you are a shamed of him he will be ashamed of you. So again I ask where does God fit in? That magnolia tree grew from a seed, just like you grew from a baby. Doesn't mean you evolved. |
where does shame come in? I didn't get that at all. You two are on far sides of the argument and nothing is getting accomplished.
dawg believes that you have to believe in his version of Christianity or you are going to hell. So there isn't much he can be persuaded to believe. mriff is a scientist who see evidence of evolution and has no reason to think that his Religion has to be thrown out just because of proof of evolution. I don't think there is a compromise coming. although I do enjoy reading the debating points. |
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And so how did the seed get there? And yes, hominid evolution is well accounted for. As is the evolution of plants. As is the evolution of all living organisms. But you will not listen for understanding. One more time. Show me credible evidence of how the alleged great flood caused deposition of all fossils on earth. I'll read it if you show it to me. |
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Yes I mentioned that in one thread and it didn't go over well. Its lead to the holocaust, crusades, the Inquisition, centuries of war in the middle east and many other of man's great accomplishments.
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I wonder why it didn't go over well test? ;-)
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Amazing how you can only think of the negative in terms of one's religious views. Have you been damaged that bad? |
Are you just naming things that were done by Christians? or are you naming things that were done in the name of Christianity?
no damage at all and consider myself a Christian. I was merely pointing out some situations where fanaticism got out of control. And most of your examples are great but still had religious fanatics fighting against those things. |
Both, and in each case right won out, and in each case it was Christianity, or the church in general that progressed each cause along it's way.
I guess you're gonna argue those down now? Yes, I do find it interesting that at first blush you chose to state several negative affects or outcome of fanaticism in the church. And all connected to you and Mriff's lack of understanding. Or refusal. Y'all just seem angry at the church, like you've got a bone to pick and blame it for so many of society's ills. It is so evident reading across this thread. Given the opportunity, it really seems you will first off blame Christianity. |
You're wrong JS. With the exception of one post (331) in which I mentioned the possibility of bad outcomes of extremists who falsely based their purpose in life on religion, I have not made one post about being 'angry at the church'. No bone to pick at all with various religions including my own, Catholocism. Except as you well know, that I don't think creationism should be taught as science in public shool. Which is the original intent of this thread.
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Until you answer my question I will not answer yours. The catholics have persecuted many a person haven't they. Most likely more than any other religion on earth. |
Post #331 is the one I read.
"What a dangerous idea". |
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