That is a common misconception that was true in the past but Christianity is spreading throughout China as the Government has been open to religions for decades.

The thought of dawg being more qualified than Darwin made my morning, thanks. :razz:

You couldnt be more wrong. My church had to sneak their Bibles in as food because the Chinese government wouldnt allow them In. Wheh the preachers tried to get in they had to go in as School teachers because again the government wouldnt let them come in as preachers.

We have sent over 90 mission trips to China and I can tell you from experience that it isnt allowed. I have been involved first hand.

delusion
–noun 1. an act or instance of deluding.
2. the state of being deluded.
3. a false belief or opinion: delusions of grandeur.
4. Psychiatry. a fixed false belief that is resistant to reason or confrontation with actual fact: a paranoid delusion.

If you think you are as qualified, then please read the following:

Amazon.com: Charles Darwin: The Power of Place: Janet Browne: Books
Amazon.com: Charles Darwin: Voyaging: Janet Browne: Books

Well that depends. I have hired dozens of people who have attended what I would define as a Christian university. However, I suspect that you would consider that University -- quite well respected -- to be heathen. After all, it is affiliated with the Catholic church, and you have made your opinions about that quite clear.

I have several friends in China who teach and although the churches are mainly underground, they are growing fast. If the government really wanted to stop it, they could. Look back to the Soviets in the 50's and 60's and you will see that a government can stop religion if it dedicates itself to doing it.

"They repeat a seemingly shared belief that the time has come to proclaim their place in Chinese society as the world focuses on China and its hosting of the 2008 Olympics, set to begin in August.

"We have nothing to hide," said Jin, a former Communist Party member who broke away from the state church last year to found his Zion Church.

Jin embodies a historic change: After centuries of foreign efforts to implant Christianity in China, today's Christian ascension is led not by missionaries but by evangelical citizens at home. Where Christianity once was confined largely to poor villages, it is now spreading into urban power centers with often tacit approval from the regime.

It reaches into the most influential corners of Chinese life: Intellectuals disillusioned by the 1989 crackdown at Tiananmen Square are placing their loyalty in faith, not politics; tycoons fed up with corruption are seeking an ethical code; and Communist Party members are daring to argue that their faith does not put them at odds with the government.

The boundaries of what is legal and what is not are constantly shifting. A new church or Sunday school, for instance, might be permissible one day and taboo the next, because local officials have broad latitude to interpret laws on religious gatherings.

Overall, though, the government is permitting churches to be more open and active than ever before, signaling a new tolerance of faith in public life. President Hu Jintao even held an unprecedented Politburo "study session" on religion last year, in which he told China's 25 most powerful leaders that "the knowledge and strength of religious people must be mustered to build a prosperous society."

This rise, driven by evangelical Protestants, reflects a wider spiritual awakening in China. As communism fades into today's free-market reality, many Chinese describe a "crisis of faith" and seek solace everywhere from mystical Taoist sects to Bahai temples and Christian megachurches."

Jesus in China: Christianity's rapid rise -- chicagotribune.com
Your Church or former Church's ability to smuggle contraband into China does not constitute the progress of Christianity in China.

Come one riff you are smarter than that i said at the time. read the whole sentence before you reply geez.

I give up, you and I are going to be at odds on this till the end of time we will just have to agree to disagree. And I guess when the end comes one of us will know the truth and the other will have a warm residence.

You aren't going to change my mind and I am not going to change yours.

You are right in your mind and I am right in mine.

So I'll leave it at that.

Well these Bibles and preachers were going to Bejing, Three of them got arrested at the Airport for having a Bible on them at the time they went through customs. Every bit of coorespondence that we recieved had to be written very carefully because they would be arrested.

And this isnt just my Church this is Churches from acroos the Country. This is a project called The Olympic Bible Project. We have handed out more than 800,000 bibles in every language at the last 9 olympics.

Dawg I have no doubt that smuggling things into China is vert tough, but it is again smuggling things into a sovereign country. The rise of Christianity though I think is alive and well in China.

Ok, we'll leave it at that.

I have no doubt about the rise of Christianity the thirst for knowledge is incredible. But it is illegal to spread the gospel in China as I stated in the first post about it.

If by spread you mean to illegally smuggle things into their country, then yes but its also illegal to do that here then as well.

To be a Christian in China is not illegal.

The far liberal left once again shows its fascist tenancies. And to think you can personally kill one's admittance to a university, you really do think quite highly of yourself don't you?

How funny -- now I'm a liberal because I believe in science as opposed to pseudo-science. When you joining the comedy circuit?

Oh, and I am proud to take that stance against pseudo-science!

You keep thinking that. If it helps you sleep at night.

I guess Tim Tebow should have not been let into the UF because I am sure he wasnt taught evolution.

What did you claim to be recently, libertarian? I don't recall. Eh, you know yourself that the line gets real blurry in there. The fascist element fits your willingness to censor open thought and discussion, though.

I know several openly Christian people teaching in china who neither hide their religion or fear for their Christian friends in China.

Dawg is the libertarian.

not sure where you can argue about censoring open thought? I believe that to eliminate evolution form class rooms qualifies as that as well.

test, read this thread, please please please. I might be mistaken (I always am open to that), but I don't think I have ever advocated that in this thread. You might have assumed that is my position, but you know what means.