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velocity92c 02-13-2009 03:44 PM

When will T-Mobile have a 3g network?
 
I apologize for so many posts from me on here lately. I tried a google search and a BBforum search, the best articles I could find were very old. One from 2006 saying within 2 years and one articles anywhere laying out when T-Mobile will have a 3g network? Will they release a new Blackberry with 3g compatibility (if I'm reading this right, the Javelin isn't 3g compatible) when they roll out their 3g network? Thanks for any info.

TheBigNewt 02-13-2009 03:51 PM

They have 3g in a few places now. When they have it most places they'll have more 3g phones for sure. Personally I don't care at this point. I did what I could to research the advantages of ATT's 3g network using the Bold, Verizon's Storm, vs the 8900 and Tmob and figured Tmob was at least as fast for me, and more reliable. Others will feel differently for sure. Depends on where you are.

rambo47 02-13-2009 04:35 PM

T-Mobile has refused to give any schedule for AWS rollout. They announced some cities a while back that were going to be "next", but no time frame was given, other then "starting this summer..." kind of thing. My frustration with this is one reason I jumped to AT&T. When T-Mo rolled out AWS in NYC the coverage didn't extend out to my area of northern New Jersey. So I said fuggedaboudit and went to the Death Starxxx8482;. Happy as a clam ever since!

raja_3012 02-13-2009 06:12 PM

It would be better to check the coverage by yourself..

T-Mobile Personal Coverage Check

Once the page comes, click on the tab "Data Coverage" and enter your zip code to find out the exact details.

TroyDBrown 02-13-2009 07:29 PM

Here is everywhere that should have it as of today:

TmoNews » Blog Archive » T-mobile Officially Announces 3G cities!

Bushwack 02-13-2009 08:06 PM

OK...I am a bit confused. I plan on jumping from Verizon & my Centro to TMO and the 8900. I'm in L.A. which shows it has 3G coverage. Will I have access to 3G with the 8900?

TroyDBrown 02-13-2009 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bushwack (Post 1284810)
OK...I am a bit confused. I plan on jumping from Verizon & my Centro to TMO and the 8900. I'm in L.A. which shows it has 3G coverage. Will I have access to 3G with the 8900?

No because the 8900 is not a 3G phone.

Bushwack 02-13-2009 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TroyDBrown (Post 1284813)
No because the 8900 is not a 3G phone.

OK Thanks. Not a deal breaker.

Just curious....is the phone not capable of 3G (due to its OS)? Is this an option that TMO has disabled (possibly until a later date)?

TroyDBrown 02-13-2009 08:13 PM

The 8900 does not have a 3G radio. That is the design. Not T-Mobile or anyone else.


The Bold 9000 has 3G in the US on AT&T and the Storm on Verizon. Those are the only U.S. 3G BlackBerrys to date

Godzilla07 02-14-2009 08:38 AM

T-Mobile has 3G in a few select markets. But they have no timetable for 3G rollout or at least a schedule that is available. I'm waiting for RIM to make a 3G BlackBerry. Hopefully it will be announced at WES for a release in the holiday season. Either way, I'm getting a 4.6 BlackBerry with the exception of the Pearl Flip to mitigate the wait for a 3G BlackBerry for T-Mobile.

Perfect Storm 02-14-2009 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TroyDBrown (Post 1284817)
The 8900 does not have a 3G radio. That is the design. Not T-Mobile or anyone else.


The Bold 9000 has 3G in the US on AT&T and the Storm on Verizon. Those are the only U.S. 3G BlackBerrys to date

Well, if you're counting all the CDMA devices along with the storm, then the 7250, 8703e, 8830, 8130, and 8330 are all also 3G.

TheBigNewt 02-14-2009 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfect Storm (Post 1285280)
Well, if you're counting all the CDMA devices along with the storm, then the 7250, 8703e, 8830, 8130, and 8330 are all also 3G.

No, they weren't 3g. I think only the Storm runs on their version of 3g. It's not trademarked as 3G ( they call it 1v or whatever). I download web pages on EDGE faster the I can on their Storm (when I tried it) most of the time and they don't have WiFi, which is definitely faster than anybodys 3g by a lot.

coallaw 02-14-2009 02:29 PM

Don't Be So Anxious
 
3G not all it's cracked up to be. Within last month have used Apple Iphone and BB Storm. Both 3G. I phone gives you about 3 hours of battery life while surfing. AND it's not that fast. Storm is a piece of junk. Very hard to type on, poorly made and you notice no speed increase from 3G. Now have BB 8900. VERY VERY good!. This is the replacement for me for my old BB 7000g. It's wireless is seamless and speedy and it's 2G Edge is just as fast, if not faster than the Storm's and Apple's 3G. And, it doesn't drain the battery like 3G. The 8900 is tops!

TroyDBrown 02-14-2009 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBigNewt (Post 1285341)
No, they weren't 3g. I think only the Storm runs on their version of 3g. It's not trademarked as 3G ( they call it 1v or whatever). I download web pages on EDGE faster the I can on their Storm (when I tried it) most of the time and they don't have WiFi, which is definitely faster than anybodys 3g by a lot.

I have to agree I have a Storm on T-Mobile and one on Verizon. My T-Mobile one with EDGE out performs Verizon the majority of the time.

I also hate how Verizon does the 3G Storm commercials. They should say "It is the largest (our version of) 3G in North America."

Voice and data together? NO

DHermit 02-14-2009 03:08 PM

We have 3g here in Orlando, too bad I'm on Tmobile and that means no blackberry that can use it, as stated above. :( What the **** were they thinking releasing the 8900 without 3g?

Not sure what the point of the 8900 is, it's no different then the previous curve besides a better camera...

zero7404 02-14-2009 03:21 PM

i have a great idea: why don't these north american carriers use the 2100 MHz frequency for UMTS and stop this 'unique' 3G spectrum bs....

velocity92c 02-14-2009 07:39 PM

I have had a completely opposite experience with 3g than many of the posters in this thread. On lunch I played with a co-workers Bold a few days and and pages were pulling up so fast it blew my mind. I could actually stream Youtube without waiting on any buffering. On my T-Mobile 8310 I can't watch youtube at all, regardless of how long I let it buffer. It will play about a second, then buffer for 30 seconds, then play another second, then buffer, etc. It'd take me hours to watch a full video. I'm guessing it will be similar on the Javelin because it will connect through the same data network but hopefully I'm wrong and it's much faster.

goodboy7 02-14-2009 08:36 PM

I always watch youtube on curve 8900 just fine with tmobile carrier. I used to have 8320 and I can watch youtube as well with upgraded OS v4.5.

Winston S. 02-18-2009 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DHermit (Post 1285457)
We have 3g here in Orlando, too bad I'm on Tmobile and that means no blackberry that can use it, as stated above. :( What the **** were they thinking releasing the 8900 without 3g?

Not sure what the point of the 8900 is, it's no different then the previous curve besides a better camera...

I like the Javelin due to the extra onboard memory and the faster processor. Definitely makes a difference.

Dubdub 02-18-2009 09:46 PM

The real question to ask is when will T-Mo bring out a phone that will work on its 3G network?

vinmontRD 02-19-2009 06:48 AM

I'd be curious to see the difference between the 8900 with EDGE and a comparable device on 3G in everyday use. I can certainly imagine that apps like Google Maps, used in conjunction with GPS, might be a significantly better experience with 3G, and a streaming radio app would be better off with 3G also. But aside from that, I'm not seeing many instances where it would make much of a difference for me -- and if the accelerated battery drain I've read about with 3G is a real issue, I'd rather *not* have to worry about that.

Prior to my current 8900, I never had UMA on a mobile device -- my last BB was an 8300, which was great. Now that my 8900 switches to UMA automatically when I walk in my front door at home, or when I get to work, the library, Panera, etc, I'm getting spectacular speed and connectivity pretty much anywhere I would stop and make use of the 8900's web browser or send/receive large files. Aside from that, I generally have a perfectly good EDGE signal 99% of the time wherever I go, and that does just fine for normal phone use, typical emails and SMS/MMS.

No doubt if I sat in my car and tried web browsing, I might appreciate 3G, but that's happened perhaps 2 or 3 times over the last few years (checking a movie schedule from the car). Also: with apps like Viigo updating movie schedules for me as a background task, I don't have to go to the web anymore to get local movie schedules from my 8900.

My career has centered around technology and I love new advances, so I appreciate what 3G does. But so far I don't miss it, and if my battery lasts longer without it, odds are I'd opt to *not* use 3G if that were a choice.

Anyway -- 8900, with its increased memory (loads still free, even with several background apps running) and fast processor, and with UMA connections available in most places I'd want faster connectivity, is a great experience right now. Great device (mine has been flawless so far) overall.

TheBigNewt 02-19-2009 11:14 AM

All I remember is that some people who bought Bolds on Rogers Canada said they couldn't download web pages any faster via 3g than they could with EDGE, and they could select either 3g or 2g on their device (ATT Bold does not have that option). And some with 3g Bolds that they bought from Rogers and unlocked on ATT couldn't dl web pages any faster than they could with EDGE either. I know that I could dl as fast on EDGE with my pearl as my friend could with his 3g Storm from the same location/signal. To me from reading people's experiences it seems clear that just because you have a 3g phone does not mean for sure that your connection speeds will not be any faster than your 2g speed where you use your phone. The impression that the ads give is that it will be way faster for everybody who lives in a 3g coverage area. Battery life does seem to suffer and I suspect that is because of the relatively new technology/phones. I expect that to get better in the future.

YMark 02-19-2009 02:42 PM

The real question is why ask/discuss 3G in an 8900 forum. ;-)

hotburnttoast 02-19-2009 05:16 PM

We have 3G here in Phoenix AZ, went went live last October

jcbauerca 02-21-2009 12:52 PM

Hmmm, I always thought 3G systems would allow us to do video phone calls and all we are doing with it is stream You Tube. I think the Europeans can make video calls which was supposedly the real reason for all the 3G hype.

Am I wrong???

hilu80 03-01-2009 01:52 AM

i think the 3g only works on the G1 as i was told but in the quarter year they should be makin a blackberry that runs off of 3g for tmobile

dc/dc 03-01-2009 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hilu80 (Post 1303687)
i think the 3g only works on the G1 as i was told but in the quarter year they should be makin a blackberry that runs off of 3g for tmobile

No, T-Mobile has several 3G devices for sale.

Jadey 03-03-2009 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcbauerca (Post 1293818)
Hmmm, I always thought 3G systems would allow us to do video phone calls and all we are doing with it is stream You Tube. I think the Europeans can make video calls which was supposedly the real reason for all the 3G hype.

Am I wrong???

They launched 3G with video calling devices a few years ago in the UK. They never proved popular. The networks support 3G video calling here, but not so many networks still offer the devices.

3 - Products & Services - Planet 3 - Service detail
This is just an example. All UK networks offer video calling subject to handset and data coverage.

jlhetrick 03-12-2009 01:03 PM

8900 vs. earlier Curves
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DHermit (Post 1285457)
We have 3g here in Orlando, too bad I'm on Tmobile and that means no blackberry that can use it, as stated above. :( What the **** were they thinking releasing the 8900 without 3g?

Not sure what the point of the 8900 is, it's no different then the previous curve besides a better camera...

My comments might not even count here (this is my first post) as I just ordered my 8900 and don't even have it in hand yet (but have handled one several times now).

DHermit- there is currently several very good reviews on the 8900 both pre and post release. You will find both from the reviews and handling one yourself that there are very significant differences between the 8900 and the earlier Curves.

Besides the improved looks/design (relative to taste of course) the OS is updated, the screen resolution is far superior (best for any BB but the tradeoff is smaller screen), better keyboard, thinner and lighter, much, much faster processor and more solidly built (try squeezing the 8320 vs. the 8900 and listen/feel for results). You have already mentioned the better camera.

As I understand it from the reviews, the speculation (very sound) is that the smaller, thin/compact design is very appealing to the market and could not have been accomplished if 3G was included. bigger battery and radio addition requires more space. Excellent business decision for T-Mobile based on the fact that they do not yet have Wide 3G coverage. The 8900 will definately help them afford to expand as they are selling like hot-cakes.

been Windows smartphone for years with no desire for blackberry until I saw the BB Bold. Went in to T-Mobile to cancel and transfer to AT&T for the BOLD and there sat the new 8900. I was bought by the 8900 and T-Mobile kept a customer.


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