[mreda]

is there a way to install Blackberry Messenger 5.0 without a data plan?

I have an unlimited email and IM plan and would have to pay outrageous data charges to download through BB App World.

[NJBlackBerry]

Since you can't use BBM without a BlackBerry Data Plan, what's the point?

[ifonline]

How are you planning on using it without a data plan?

Doh! You beat me to it.

[mreda]

sorry, i forgot to mention that plan is for IM and email, it includes BBM, Yahoo IM, Live Messenger and Gtalk.

[NJBlackBerry]

Very, very confusing. You have a plan that allows for data, but you don't want to use it.

So why are you using BBM?

[MrKyoo]

My head hurts now...

[DacyJ]

Wirelessly posted (My name is Bubbles)

BBM will only work with a Blackberry data plan ie. BIS or BES

[Raptor464]

These threads make me die a little inside

[Hi Tek]

Wow you guys aren't very helpful. The plan works, my brother is on the same plan. anyways you said you can do email so install via OTA (over the air) .. basiclly you get an email to download/install .

google: Blackberry Messenger 5.0 OTA

**Make sure its NOT the BETA version**

[Seawolf]

BBM uses PIN messaging system, which requires a blackberry plan....

[NJBlackBerry]

Why bother...

[takeshi]

FWIW:

Unlimited Email on BlackBerry® $15 Plan

You can add Unlimited E-mail on BlackBerry® to your Rogers Voice Rate Plan.
For $15 per month (added to your voice plan), personal email on BlackBerry® provides you with the following:

* support for up to 10 personal email accounts (Rogers Yahoo!, Yahoo mail!, Google Gmail, MSN, Hotmail, AOL, or pop3/imap account through your internet service provider)
* unlimitedxxx8224;xxx8224; number of emails sent/received/forwarded
* real time delivery of email messages for for Rogers Yahoo! (@rogers.com), Yahoo! Mail, or Google Gmail accountsxxx8224;
* attachment viewing (pictures, sound files, word, excel, powerpoint, and adobe pdf)
* Unlimited Instant Messaging includes Windows Live Messenger, Google Talk, Yahoo! Messenger, BlackBerry® Messenger
* existing BlackBerry® device customer, register or sign in to rogers.com, select "manage my wireless services", select "update my wireless essentials" and add "personal email on BlackBerry®" from the individual essentials list.

If you want to use your Blackberry® for more than just personal email, then you will be interested in a Blackberry® data plan or Blackberry® voice & data plan package.
xxx8224;real-time push email delivery is available with Rogers Yahoo!, Yahoo! Mail, and Google Gmail accounts integrated with BIS (Blackberry® Internet Service). All other personal email is delivered every 2 xxx8211; 15 minutes depending on the service provider and the frequency of use.

xxx8224;xxx8224;Unlimited E-mail on Blackberry® includes unlimited email when using your Blackberry® on the Rogers wireless network. Standard roaming rate is billed at 3¢ per kb in the United States and other countries. Customers with Unlimited E-mail on a Blackberry® plan will be billed at only $0.006 per kb while roaming in the USA, Puerto Rico or the U.S. Virgin islands.
Personal email on Blackberry® plan is subject to Rogers acceptable use policy.

http://www.rogers.com/web/content/wi...phone_bb_plans

Granted, Rogers could be mistaken but IIRC the email support would require access to the BB APN as well so maybe not.

[nk_blu]

I have the $15 Unlimited Email/IM (only) plan, and I was able to update to BBM 5.x version through USB.

Using Internet Explorer, go to BlackBerry Messenger homepage, there is a link where you can download the latest BBM via desktop. Click on that, install the ActiveX they require you to, connect your BB, etc. next next next, done.

However, it seems like they disabled update via Desktop at the moment, so hopefully it'll be available again in the future.

And YES, all features of new BBM works with the $15 BB Unlimited Email/IM (data) plan. Geez.

[oasissux]

Originally Posted by mreda

is there a way to install Blackberry Messenger 5.0 without a data plan?

I have an unlimited email and IM plan and would have to pay outrageous data charges to download through BB App World.

Don't mind all the know-it-alls, they still haven't figured out that Canadian carriers offer a data-lite plan that allows for unlimited email/bbm, but no web surfing.

I downloaded it to my computer from here:

BlackBerry - BlackBerry Messenger

[ifonline]

Originally Posted by oasissux

Don't mind all the know-it-alls, they still haven't figured out that Canadian carriers offer a data-lite plan that allows for unlimited email/bbm, but no web surfing.

Good for you.

Next time someone comes around complaining about this plan not working, or how to download BBM, or how to do anything else with this plan, please feel free to step in and handle it. No need to wait 2 and a half months before yelling from the peanut gallery that others don't know what they're talking about.

[oasissux]

Originally Posted by ifonline

Good for you.

Next time someone comes around complaining about this plan not working, or how to download BBM, or how to do anything else with this plan, please feel free to step in and handle it. No need to wait 2 and a half months before yelling from the peanut gallery that others don't know what they're talking about.

Lol.

I forgot the glacial pace that this site moves at. I should've checked the date on the OP instead of assuming it was a fresh thread.

Regardless, the info still stands.

[ketan1988]

Originally Posted by ifonline

Good for you.

Next time someone comes around complaining about this plan not working, or how to download BBM, or how to do anything else with this plan, please feel free to step in and handle it. No need to wait 2 and a half months before yelling from the peanut gallery that others don't know what they're talking about.

all he tried to do was help, is there really a need to be a dick about it...

[JSanders]

ketan, bad first post. Clean up your language or you won't be here long.

[NJBlackBerry]

This from people whose carrier is named Fido.
Great first post.