[erikmiller]

we continue to experience issues on -some- of our handhelds in the Tampa FL, Baltimore MD and Boston MA areas. Best we get are "edge" and "GSM" signals - but no "EDGE".

[wabbit]

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Originally Posted by oh my julia

What does EDGE mean? I just got my phone a few days ago and its had that word up the whole time. And I'm in NYC

EDGE means you are on the faster GPRS network or using 2.5g when its all in caps data should work. All lower case is no data but voice. You can see sometimes gprs in caps is data will work lower case no data. But all caps edge means you should be able to send / receive data

[ArmyGeorge]

No Google sync either

[absoluteevel]

Originally Posted by wabbit

Wirelessly postedEDGE means you are on the faster GPRS network or using 2.5g when its all in caps data should work. All lower case is no data but voice. You can see sometimes gprs in caps is data will work lower case no data. But all caps edge means you should be able to send / receive data

Technically EDGE or GPRS means connected to the BlackBerry servers at RIM, which edge or gprs means data is available, but for some reason the phone can't connect to the servers. There is some data that could still be sent, such as MMS. GSM means no data service is available, so only voice calls and text messages can be processed. Not even MMS can be processed with GSM.

[wabbit]

Originally Posted by absoluteevel

Technically EDGE or GPRS means connected to the BlackBerry servers at RIM, which edge or gprs means data is available, but for some reason the phone can't connect to the servers. There is some data that could still be sent, such as MMS. GSM means no data service is available, so only voice calls and text messages can be processed. Not even MMS can be processed with GSM.

ijunk/ windows mobile runs EDGE yet no bis, no blackberry connect,and edge/EDGE/grps/GPRS means what service you have, data being when on EDGE and no data when on edge. it has nothing to connected to rim, last night i had EDGE no rim servers.

[absoluteevel]

So then why am I able to send MMS while on lower case edge?

[wabbit]

Originally Posted by absoluteevel

So then why am I able to send MMS while on lower case edge?

ssm/mms does not use data, hence why any phone can ssm/mms its part of gsm network diffrent protocals etc.

[absoluteevel]

Originally Posted by wabbit

ssm/mms does not use data, hence why any phone can ssm/mms its part of gsm network diffrent protocals etc.

We are getting so off topic, but then if MMS uses GSM and not GPRS/EGPRS, why am I not able to send MMS when my phone displays GSM?

[growaroad]

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Right now my email and bb browser are not working but my opera browser is. This makes no sense

[absoluteevel]

Originally Posted by growaroad

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Right now my email and bb browser are not working but my opera browser is. This makes no sense

Opera uses the wap proxy, not RIM's servers.

[wabbit]

Originally Posted by absoluteevel

We are getting so off topic, but then if MMS uses GSM and not GPRS/EGPRS, why am I not able to send MMS when my phone displays GSM?

it varies for a variety of reasons, but gsm should have phone/mms/sms. hence why with out a texting plan you pay per text, they get transported differently from data. should also receive txt messages with data off in the phone.

but it also depends how the network was build up and expanded.

[growaroad]

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Originally Posted by absoluteevel

Opera uses the wap proxy, not RIM's servers.

Ah I see. So that means I'm definitely having a BIS problem? When I pull the battery and restart, it connects to EDGE but later changes to edge and occasionally flashes back to EDGE

[absoluteevel]

Originally Posted by growaroad

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Ah I see. So that means I'm definitely having a BIS problem? When I pull the battery and restart, it connects to EDGE but later changes to edge and occasionally flashes back to EDGE

Ya. You can go to Options/Mobile Network/(menu)Diagnostics Test/(menu)Run and you can see there what you are connected to. It will always say your network is GPRS when you are attached to a capable tower, since EDGE is just a revision of GPRS.

[growaroad]

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Originally Posted by absoluteevel

Ya. You can go to Options/Mobile Network/(menu)Diagnostics Test/(menu)Run and you can see there what you are connected to. It will always say your network is GPRS when you are attached to a capable tower, since EDGE is just a revision of GPRS.

Right now it says I am connected to EDGE but it still says edge on the home screen. Also in the section below that it says:

Blackberry registration: No
Connected to Blackberry: No
Blackberry PIN-PIN: No

What does that mean?