[billclark]

Who's bright idea was it to change Daylight Savings Time? Now I've got 2000+ workstations, 2000+ point of sale registers, 250+ Point of Sale Servers, 30 Fire Alarm Control Panels, 30 store perimeter security systems, and 35 apple computers to track down, install, and verify hotfixes just so some farmer can harvest his damn corn an hour later for an extra 3 weeks in DST. Argh!!!!!

-B

[freemantle]

With out that corn, you wouldn't have the energy to do all that...LOL

[dpeters11]

What I hate more than Congress making the change to DST is the software vendors that are just now releasing the patches. I think most if not all the Microsoft patches weren't released until January, yet the law was passed back in August 2005. I don't see why the patches couldn't have been ready by early 2006 so we could have more time.

[murpheous]

here comes the whaambulance

[brucejr]

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8703e/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/105)

Just ask congress to roll back the roll out, they are good at that! LOL

[ndub33]

Why do we even have standard time at all? Rolling back the hours of DST just seems to be a weak, "change for the sake of change" initiative.

[billclark]

Originally Posted by ndub33

Why do we even have standard time at all? Rolling back the hours of DST just seems to be a weak, "change for the sake of change" initiative.

And the US isn't known for change for the sake of change at all... no, not us ;) LOL!

[billclark]

Originally Posted by murpheous

here comes the whaambulance

Kind of lame to be making fun of someone for ranting in a "Rants and Raves" forum, no?

[Talldog]

Originally Posted by ndub33

Why do we even have standard time at all?

So that it's not pitch black when the school kids leave home on winter mornings.

[ChairmanKaga]

Congress should constrain its exercise of authority to those duties enumerated in Article I Section 8 of the United States Constitution. Tampering with my alarm clock is not among those duties.

Too many people (almost everyone, it seems) believe that Congress is authorized to enact laws on whatever subject it sees fit. This simply is not the case.



cheers

[blkberryboy]

Originally Posted by ndub33

Why do we even have standard time at all? Rolling back the hours of DST just seems to be a weak, "change for the sake of change" initiative.

One of the rerasons is so electric companies can operate in conjunction with each other across the land to keep the lights on. I use to work in a control room and in order to coordinate load pick up and drop off companies in the midwest agreed to dst in order to follow sunrises and sun sets. Ya its lame and a pain in the ass, but if you look at the change I beleive it part of the EPA (Energy Policy Act) that Bush passed 2 years ago. But Im sure there are other reasons too...

[murpheous]

Originally Posted by billclark

Kind of lame to be making fun of someone for ranting in a "Rants and Raves" forum, no?

No, but it is lame to be complaing about change that is a good idea. Oh no, you have a little more work to do. "Congress sucks", look at it from more than one angle.

[ndub33]

Originally Posted by blkberryboy

One of the rerasons is so electric companies can operate in conjunction with each other across the land to keep the lights on. I use to work in a control room and in order to coordinate load pick up and drop off companies in the midwest agreed to dst in order to follow sunrises and sun sets. Ya its lame and a pain in the ass, but if you look at the change I beleive it part of the EPA (Energy Policy Act) that Bush passed 2 years ago. But Im sure there are other reasons too...

Never thought of it from that perspective before. I'll recant my previous whine.

[Aroc]

Is this more of the idea that more sunshine hours after the 7-3 or 9-5 work day will encourge Americans to spend more time outside and less time indoors running out forced-air central air conditioning systems? (thus saving more electricity)

I don't buy the argument that this is for farmers.

pa: Ma! If only there were more time in the day for me to attend to the crops.
ma: Pa, you mean if you only had an hour more each day?
pa: yeah.
ma: why don't you just get up an hour early?
pa: wtf?!? I always get up at 5. I can't get up at 4. That simply doesn't make any sense. Get that U.S. Senator on the phone. Tell him we need to get the ENTIRE COUNTRY to set THEIR clocks ahead ONE HOUR so that I can get up earlier. It's the only way that makes sense.

[DarthBBerry]

Originally Posted by blkberryboy

One of the rerasons is so electric companies can operate in conjunction with each other across the land to keep the lights on. I use to work in a control room and in order to coordinate load pick up and drop off companies in the midwest agreed to dst in order to follow sunrises and sun sets. Ya its lame and a pain in the ass, but if you look at the change I beleive it part of the EPA (Energy Policy Act) that Bush passed 2 years ago. But Im sure there are other reasons too...

That's the current philosophy. Here's the history of DST:
Thanks Wikipedia!

DST (changing time) was first proposed by William Willett in "Waste of Daylight", published in 1907, but he was unable to get the British government to adopt it, despite considerable lobbying.

The idea of DST was first put into practice by the German government during the First World War, between April 30, 1916 and October 1, 1916. Shortly afterward, the United Kingdom followed suit, first adopting it between May 21 and October 1, 1916. On June 17, 1917, Newfoundland became the first North American jurisdiction to adopt DST with the passing of the Daylight Saving Act of 1917. On March 19, 1918, the US Congress formally established several time zones, which had been in use by railroads and most cities since 1883; at the same time they made DST official, effective March 31, for the remainder of World War I. It was observed for seven months in 1918 and 1919. The law, however, proved so unpopular, mostly because it obliged people to rise and go to bed earlier than had become customary since the advent of electricity, that it was repealed in 1919, when Congress overrode President Woodrow Wilson's veto of the repeal.

Willett's 1907 proposal argued that DST increases opportunities for outdoor leisure activities during afternoon sunlight hours. As a builder, he also wanted workers to arrive at construction sites earlier in summer mornings. Similar motivations remain to this day.

Energy conservation has often been used to justify DST. The idea is that artificially delaying sunrise and sunset tends to increase energy consumption in the morning and reduce it in the evening. In theory, the evening reduction outweighs the morning increase. United States Department of Transportation studies concluded in 1975 that DST would probably reduce the country's electricity usage by 1% during March and April.[3] A study after Mexico reintroduced DST in 1996 estimated national savings of 0.7% of national electric consumption and reduction of peak load by 500 MW.[4]

An energy argument for observing DST in summer rather than winter is that most people wake up after the summer sun rises regardless of whether DST is in effect, so DST during summer has less need for morning electrical lighting. Another reason for not observing winter DST is concern about children walking to school in the dark.

The 1975 Department of Transportation studies of March and April DST also identified a 0.7% reduction in traffic fatalities and a reduction of 10 to 13% in the violent crime rate of Washington, DC.

[NJBlackBerry]

Clearly Congress doesn't have to deal with multiple time zones and continents. This is creating a mess...

To be clear - this is Congress' attempt at an "Energy Management Plan". Rather than attack root causes and waste, they screw around with the clocks. Except in Arizona, blah, blah, blah.

[Talldog]

Originally Posted by ChairmanKaga

Too many people (almost everyone, it seems) believe that Congress is authorized to enact laws on whatever subject it sees fit. This simply is not the case.

You're right, of course, but that ship sailed a long time ago.

[JSanders]

DST or whatever... nothing will be right around here until somebody takes those danged moon rocks back to where they belong.

[The Prophet]

Please keep in mind this "change" may only be temporary


Right to Revert.--Congress retains the right to revert the
Daylight Saving Time back to the 2005 time schedules once the Department
study is complete.

[Chinasaur]

The impact at MegaCorp™ (not real name), where I work, is monstrous.

Oracle server patches put out by Oracle, except...the detector .sql script has bugs that don't detect all possible timezones in the dB. So, if you miss and don't backup prior to patch thinking your clean.... Zap.

Java Virtual Machine (JVM) and Java Runtime Environment (JRE) patches on top of patches. Oh, and by the way, sequence of install sometimes matters, but we don't know which one goes first. So try and see .. :ugh:

Desktop build images in final RC testing have to go back to Beta.

Hundreds of thousands of dollars lost just in MEETINGS! And that's before the really useful work of backing up, patching, restoring and testing begins.

AND THIS IS ALL SERVER BASED... Haven't even begun to rant about DESKTOP patching!!!