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Old 08-30-2008, 01:38 AM   #61
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Thanks fot the tips! One more thing what do you mean by re send the service books?
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Old 08-30-2008, 01:52 AM   #62
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Use the "Manage Internet Email" icon on your homescreen to login to your BIS. Then resend the service books from there. Or you can login to the BIS site on the web and send from there.
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Old 08-30-2008, 06:09 PM   #63
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I just upgraded TWICE today lol...From 4.5.0.52 to .55, and now to .69.

Is .69 really more stable than .52? And if I looked for .76, or whatever the latest is for my 8310, what is the benefit?

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Old 08-31-2008, 01:46 PM   #64
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did you try to backup your device yet? (FULL BACKUP)
It works just fine here, I finally got around to booting into Windows. Desktop Manager 4.5b16 on Windows XP SP2, just worked like it's supposed to without errors.
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Old 08-31-2008, 03:10 PM   #65
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It works just fine here, I finally got around to booting into Windows. Desktop Manager 4.5b16 on Windows XP SP2, just worked like it's supposed to without errors.
Hey, that is good news. A lot of us are getting different mileage on this and can not complete a full backup...

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Old 08-31-2008, 03:47 PM   #66
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Hey, that is good news. A lot of us are getting different mileage on this and can not complete a full backup...
As I alluded to previously, I'm a pretty anal upgrader when it comes to major releases (4.2 -> 4.5). My process went something like this:

1) make full backup with DM 4.2 just in case (have a last resort plan if everything goes wrong)

2) copy any ringers, wallpaper, etc. from the Device Memory to the Media Card somewhere

3) backup your media card to your PC, deleting all the 'BBThumbs.dat' type files in the backup on the PC afterwards.

4) make a "trim" backup of JUST info data (addresses, calendar, notes, browser urls, phone hotlists, etc. - no settings, no cache, nothing but the 6 or 7 core information databases) in DM 4.2. It's important to NOT back up anything which might be a "setting", such as a WiFi profile, a ringer Profile, and so forth. There is a known bug in at least one OS release that restoring a backup containing some of this data breaks stuff! (I can dig up the thread, it's from way back)

5) uninstall DM 4.2 and manually erase any leftover RIM directories, reboot

6) install DM 4.5 and reboot again

7) perform steps #1 and #4 with DM 4.5 again. #4 via DM 4.5 is the ultimate restore backup

8) use JL_CMDR to wipe the blackberry

9) install the new OS databits to the PC, remove modules as needed (I left VAD this time, I want my About screen to work). Install the OS to the device using the methods everyone knows about from a wiped device.

10) use JL_CMDR to resettodefault (ensures no 'IT Policy' BS got on the device)

11) reformat the media card from within the device itself

12) resend all your service books to your device (do this NOW). Go into Options -> Advanced -> Default Services and set the CICAL and CMIME to point to your normal default email setup (I have 9 emails configured). See Note #3 below about this.

13) restore the (#4) backup created in step #7 with DM 4.5.

14) copy media card content back from PC to device

15) pull the battery, after a restart start configuring everything from the ground up - 3rd party installs and all that jazz

Note #1: because I use Nexthaus SyncJe, my 'trim' database does not contain Contacts, Tasks or Calendar. I install SyncJe right after step #13 and sync back down my data from the server in the sky -- this is a unique step that has to do with avoiding "sync anchor" problems with SyncJe and fresh OS installs.

Note #2: I don't have anything on my device that stores information (such as a password keeper or whatever). If you use apps such as this make sure to make backups of those datastores to your PC first, then restore them when you're done. I store everything on a server in the sky somewhere, my device is "dumb" and doesn't require a regular interval PC sync; it can break in half and I can go get a new 'berry and have everything back in a little while.

Note #3: You must make sure to set the Default Services to the proper settings so that when you restore the Calendar data it attaches to your normal primary email. OS 4.2 did not have this capability to set which account like OS 4.5; if you restore a Calendar with the Default Services set to a random email (not primary) that is who it will attach all the restored Calendar entries to.
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Old 08-31-2008, 05:25 PM   #67
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So it it ok to use the the new desktop v4.6 with the .69 upgrade or should I use the desktop v4.5?
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Old 08-31-2008, 05:41 PM   #68
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So it it ok to use the the new desktop v4.6 with the .69 upgrade or should I use the desktop v4.5?
It really doesn't matter. Unless you use the media sync function with 4.6 then theres really no reason to upgrade to 4.6. Also, there is next to no difference between .69 & .76 or .78. FYI
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You don't need DM 4.6 to use the Media Sync app. It will work as a standalone applicaton.
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I would like to thank everyone for all of your help this is very apprecitated specially being a newbie!
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Old 09-02-2008, 11:57 AM   #71
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Ok, so did we EVER get an official release date on the 4.5 OS from RIM? Last I heard it was going to be "sometime in September", and it had already been pushed out multiple times before then. Any ideas on general release?
This is far from official, so take it with a grain of salt, but this is what I got from someone at Rogers.

For all the Blackberry users out there, Research in Motion has advised us that a new software upgrade will be available to users starting in September. The new version includes the following upgrades:

4.5 Handheld code will add

Over the air device software upgrades (“OTASL”)
Automatic Music Playlists
HTML Email Support (Requires BES 4.1.6 or BIS 2.5)
Native Attachment Download (Requires BES 4.1.5 or BIS 2.5)
Dataviz™ DocsToGO Viewing and Editing
Word & PPT in EFIGS Initially, Excel in v4.6
Free/Busy Calendar Lookup (Requires BES 4.1.5)
Remote Search for Email Messages (Requires BES 4.1.5)

The roll-out schedule is:
8310 - Sept 11
8820 - Sept 11
8110 - Sept 25
8120 - Sept 25
8700 - Oct. 8
8800 - Oct. 8
8300 - Oct. 24
8100 - Oct. 24


Again, not official and would only be relevant for Rogers. Probably a good chance these dates get pushed back.
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Old 09-02-2008, 11:59 AM   #72
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The Rogers 8120 already has 4.5. I guess they are going to roll out an update to the update (the .37 version on the 8120 sucked anyway)
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Old 09-07-2008, 11:21 PM   #73
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This version is still not leaked yet...UGH
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Nope.
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Old 09-07-2008, 11:46 PM   #75
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RATSSSSSSSSS.... I wanna upgrade........
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