[TallPaul86]

Anyone have any news on this?

When i was getting a new contract on Vodafone UK, Vodafone listed the Bold 9700 having an HSDPA radio rated for 3.6Mbps whereas both the Storm 9500 and Storm 2 9520 have a 7.2Mbps rated 3G radio.

Any ninja's out there know when there will be a 3G enabled QWERTY BB with a 7.2Mbps rated radio in it? This was one of the deciding factors when i was choosing between the two devices

[duane534]

The 9700 is HSDPA (7.2 Mb/s)

[bzflagace]

Actually the 9700 is only 3.6Mb/s
BlackBerry 9700 Specs - T-Mobile Community
I also confirmed this with RIM at CES

[hcheun]

I just hope they aren't telling us that it can be upgraded to 7.2 HSDPA like the former berry's of the past (i.e. 7250's cdma to 1XEV) , it would be wonderful if they can, otherwise, i can live with hsdpa 3.6

[Jagga]

So right now only the Storm2 is capable to data speeds up to 7.2Mbps theoretical peak download then.

Bold 9700 would've been nice.

Regarding the next Storm, Bold, Curve 8900 ... Is RIM not running out of the numbering scheme to play with?? Will they just go with the names alone - I HOPE so - as their more marketable to consumers this way.

[duane534]

Originally Posted by bzflagace

Actually the 9700 is only 3.6Mb/s
BlackBerry 9700 Specs - T-Mobile Community
I also confirmed this with RIM at CES

Just because the T-Mobile build is only UMTS doesn't mean all the others aren't HSDPA.

[segeln4me]

This is from the AT&T spec list for the 9700. Maybe T-Mobile gets UMA and AT&T gets HSDPA instead

* Dimensions: 4.29 x 2.36 x 0.56 inches
* Weight: 4.3 ounces
* Battery details: 1500mAh Lithium Ion for exceptional battery life
* Talk time: Up to 6 hours
* Standby time: Up to 21 days
* Technology: HSDPA/UMTS/EDGE/GPRS/GSM*
* Frequency: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz (GSM/GPRS/EDGE); 800/850/1900/2100 MHz (UMTS/HSDPA)*
* Operating System: BlackBerry Device Software v5.0
* Memory: 256-MB Flash memory
* Display: Brilliant half-VGA resolution, 480 x 360 pixel color display (2.44" diagonal)
* Powerful 624-MHz processor
* Wi-Fi: 802.11 b/g
* Full-QWERTY keyboard
* Innovative, easy-to-use optical trackpad
* aGPS
* Included 2GB SanDisk® microSDxxx8482; card (memory slot expandable up to 16-32 GB)

[segeln4me]

This is the spec list from T-Mobile, no mention of HSDPA, so again I believe T-Mobile gets UMA and AT&T gets 7.2 Mb/s!


Basics
Size: 2.4 x 4.2 x 0.6 inches
Weight: 4.3 ounces
Included battery: 1500 mAh Lion
Talk time: up to 6 hours
Standby time: up to 17 days
Band (frequency): 850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100)
Included Accessories

* 2GB SD Card
* Battery
* Charger
* USB Cable
* Stereo Hands-Free Headset
* BlackBerry Desktop Software
* Carrying case

Top Phone Features
Messaging

* Text messaging*
* Video Messaging
* Instant messaging*

Fun

* 3.2 Megapixel camera with Video Capture
* Games
* Music player
* Video capture/playback

Communication

* Internet and corporate e-mail*
* Wi-Fi and Mobile Calling*
* Built-in QWERTY Keypad
* Visual Voicemail

Information

* 3G
* 3G Network and Wi-Fi access
* GPS built-in*
* Voice dialing

[PapiPabs]

Originally Posted by duane534

Just because the T-Mobile build is only UMTS doesn't mean all the others aren't HSDPA.

Originally Posted by segeln4me

This is from the AT&T spec list for the 9700. Maybe T-Mobile gets UMA and AT&T gets HSDPA instead

Originally Posted by segeln4me

This is the spec list from T-Mobile, no mention of HSDPA, so again I believe T-Mobile gets UMA and AT&T gets 7.2 Mb/s!

As mentioned above in a few of the posts, the devices capped at 3.6 Mbps are still utilizing HSDPA, it's just a matter of whether 3.6 is the actual limit. If what the RIM rep(s) told bzflagace at CES holds true, spec sheets for either carrier's version of the 9700 listing HSDPA would merely indicate that the device is HSDPA 3.6-compatible (like the original Bold,etc...).

[duane534]

I've held a 9700 and iPhone 3Gs in my hands, raced them, and had the 9700 come out on top, if that means anything.

[buluks]

still with HSDPA ( 3.6 or 7.2 mbps ), blackberry browser is compress data

[mi_canuck]

regardless of 3.6 or 7.2, those are theoretical numbers anyways... no one EVERY gets those speeds except in a test lab....

[vollrathian]

Originally Posted by mi_canuck

regardless of 3.6 or 7.2, those are theoretical numbers anyways... no one EVERY gets those speeds except in a test lab....

enough said, id rather have uma/wifi over 7.2

[duane534]

Originally Posted by vollrathian

enough said, id rather have uma/wifi over 7.2

Granted, but there was a time in, say early November, that I'd rather have Cricket than T-mobile...

[mi_canuck]

yup...

UMA+3.6Mbps > 7.2Mbps

[skeevecr]

Originally Posted by mi_canuck

regardless of 3.6 or 7.2, those are theoretical numbers anyways... no one EVERY gets those speeds except in a test lab....

Assuming your carrier doesn't impose its own caps, the speeds for umts and the various HSDPA speeds aren't completely impossible to achieve outside a lab, they are just highly unlikely since they are obtained by hogging a whole cell yourself.

As far as future use of the terms, people should try to remember that both 3.6 and 7.2 along with any dl speed faster than 384kb/s is actually a hsdpa connection.