[penguin3107]

Originally Posted by Iare Tosevite

So which of those 3 do 8830 have? I think it's aGPS because it doesn't work without network connection.

The 8830 has autonomous GPS built-in, not aGPS.
The network conenction is required for your GPS software (to download maps). It's not required for GPS to actually provide location.

[Iare Tosevite]

Why doesn't my 8830 get location without network then?

[CBR900RR]

You can also run it off the cache without any data connection.

[penguin3107]

Originally Posted by Iare Tosevite

Why doesn't my 8830 get location without network then?

Where are you looking for the location? How do you know it's not providing longitude and latitude, etc.?

[penguin3107]

Originally Posted by CBR900RR

You can also run it off the cache without any data connection.

Huh?

[CBR900RR]

I had prove it by cache-ing the island of OAHU at all zoom level in BBmap, pull out the sim card, insert the battery and start up the phone, and is work just like a stand alone GPS, like tom tom garmin etc...

And the cache size is 486.4 kB

In order to put it to the BBmap cache, you just need to scroll around, zoom in or out and it will save it, dunno what is the size limit.

And I believe it work the same way in googlemap.

[Maronius]

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8130/4.3.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/105)

Originally Posted by penguin3107

The 8830 has autonomous GPS built-in, not aGPS.
The network conenction is required for your GPS software (to download maps). It's not required for GPS to actually provide location.

If you can use your GPS indoors, then it is aGPS.

[Iare Tosevite]

Yeah? I tried that, and everything still works as normal without my SIM card, including email and regular data plan? Sidekick network, including emails and data, simply refuses to work when used without SIM.

That surprised me. Anyway doesn't blackberry have a way to get location info directly? I don't know... still new!

[CBR900RR]

Originally Posted by Iare Tosevite

Yeah? I tried that, and everything still works as normal without my SIM card, including email and regular data plan? Sidekick network, including emails and data, simply refuses to work when used without SIM.

That surprised me. Anyway doesn't blackberry have a way to get location info directly? I don't know... still new!

I believe you are on Sprint CDMA, you only need the sim when going international.

[Iare Tosevite]

I found this post:

On your Blackberry, please select the Settings icon from the main screen. Next, select Options, then Advanced Options, then GPS, and highlight Device GPS (that's the embedded GPS chip). Next, go outside and away from any buildings/trees so that you have a clear view of the sky. Use the Blackberry's function/menu key to bring up the the pull-down menu that shows Refresh GPS. Highlight and select Refresh GPS. That will tell the GPS chip to scan the sky for GPS satellites circling the Earth. After a couple minutes, the GPS screen will be refreshed and it will show you the number of satellites that your Blackberry found. In addition, it will also compute the "Accuracy" that is being obtained by your Blackberry. Any application, including IntelliGolf, will only be as accurate as the GPS data stream that is being provided to it by your Blackberry's integrated GPS chip. While your results may vary, we have noticed that the Blackberry's internal chip varies in accuracy from less than 10 meters/yards to more than 10 meters/yards. Since 10 meters/yards is approximately the delta distance between clubs for most folks (e.g. 7 iron goes 155 yards, 6 iron goes 165 yards) it is very important for golf that the accuracy readings from your GPS receiver/chip are less than 10 meters/yards. Otherwise, you might find yourself hitting the wrong club. You can use the GPS Refresh routine multiple times to see how your Blackberry's embedded GPS chip responds at various locations (i.e. out in the open, under trees, etc). Once you have verified that the accuracy of your Blackberry's GPS chip is consistently less than 10 meters, please exit out of the GPS screens and return to your Blackberry's main menu.

However, I have no such menu entry. How do I get that? Did I mis-read this post?

I did some more research and found similar advice from official blackberry site. :(

[Maronius]

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8130/4.3.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/105)

I think what you found are for autonomous GPS devices, not assisted. Try use your GPS applications and see if it will provide your coordinates. I know VZ Navigator does provide coordinates. I don't know if BB Maps does.

[Iare Tosevite]

What's odd is that I read it from the 8830 world edition manual, exactly same model as mine.