[juwaack68]

Perhaps on your way to work.

Back on topic.....is there a list somewhere that shows all the new features that are expected in SP5?

[hdawg]

I bet jibi has a list ... he knows all the secret stuff. Lets see what I can find out too.

[x14]

Our mail team is not going to be happy. They were looking to do Domino 8 testing in November with SP5 in place.

[alex555550]

Hy,

hahhaha "BlackBerry Enterprise Server Resource Kit v4.1.5, avaibel at 21.12.2007" a little christmas present for us.

[jibi]

Originally Posted by hdawg

I bet jibi has a list ... he knows all the secret stuff. Lets see what I can find out too.

Well, what's been reported publically has been:

- Free/Busy information from the device
- Remote search and retrieval of messages (for accidental deletion of messages from device, etc)
- HTML/Rich E-Mail handling
- OTASL implementation (wireless OS upgrades)

With the last two, it will be compatible for OS 4.3.x and above (maybe not OS 4.3.0, but I'm not sure; definitely included with OS 4.3.1, though).

There's a few more surprises planned, as well. This is a HUGE end-user, feature-rich service pack release. This is the first major update since BES 4.0, in terms of end-user visibility and functionality, in my opinion.

[Qw3rty]

The delays do suck. I'm used to it by now. I don't think they have launched a product on time for a long time now. It's no big deal to me. BES SP5 has a lot of features related to devices that wont be out till next year anyway so what's the big deal. I for one would rather have them launch late and have them fix all the issues than getting crappy software that's buggy. Lets hope with all the new features that this version will have been tested and work right out of the box.

[jibi]

Well, this is the first time that I can honestly recall an exact date being given to a product launch in a public format (non-conference, non-NDA meetings, non-internal docs, etc), which is why I'm astonished that it was delayed another quarter.

[tankee531]

better delay than buggy releases

[BBAdmin]

It's annoying, but what can you do. Well, it is going to be a very slick release with a lot of new (and useful) end user stuff, so it should be worth the wait!

[rsk]

Originally Posted by tankee531

better delay than buggy releases

the problem here is that 4.1.4 already has a serious S/MIME memory leak bug that we have been promissed will be fixed in 4.1.5.

so in effect they are delaying fixing an existing bug.

[hdawg]

Originally Posted by rsk

the problem here is that 4.1.4 already has a serious S/MIME memory leak bug that we have been promissed will be fixed in 4.1.5.

so in effect they are delaying fixing an existing bug.

Do the published maintenance releases not address this?

[1fish]

Would I be correct to assume that 5.0 is now, in essence, no where in sight? - And since I already need to do an upgrade (I'm still on 3.6) I shouldn't wait for it and just go to 4.1?

[MarkF]

Wow, you're at v3.6? Go to v4.1 now, it's such a huge upgrade of capabilities. We made the move in Feb. How many users do you have?

[juwaack68]

Originally Posted by jibi

Well, what's been reported publically has been:

- Free/Busy information from the device
- Remote search and retrieval of messages (for accidental deletion of messages from device, etc)
- HTML/Rich E-Mail handling
- OTASL implementation (wireless OS upgrades)

With the last two, it will be compatible for OS 4.3.x and above (maybe not OS 4.3.0, but I'm not sure; definitely included with OS 4.3.1, though).

There's a few more surprises planned, as well. This is a HUGE end-user, feature-rich service pack release. This is the first major update since BES 4.0, in terms of end-user visibility and functionality, in my opinion.

Excellent! Thanks for sharing this.... I'm now jumping on the "why the wait?" bandwagon

[1fish]

Originally Posted by MarkF

Wow, you're at v3.6? Go to v4.1 now, it's such a huge upgrade of capabilities. We made the move in Feb. How many users do you have?

Not that many - only 9 or 10

[AlanM]

Originally Posted by DarthBBerry

I think I was sitting next to you (or was that AlanM?) at WES 2007 during the BES 5.0 announcement. My question, upon hearing the codename of Argon: "Isn't Argon a colorless, odorless gas that if exposed to large quantities can kill you?" So a BES with 5.0 and a large number of users could be fatal to BES Admins. Hmm.....

It was me, Darth. I think you had just dumped your "hands on" workshop because there wasn't anything to do.

[AlanM]

Originally Posted by rsk

the problem here is that 4.1.4 already has a serious S/MIME memory leak bug that we have been promissed will be fixed in 4.1.5.

so in effect they are delaying fixing an existing bug.

Our memory leak was fixed with a fix on the BBagent.exe. It should have been included in the MR releases.

[rsk]

Originally Posted by AlanM

Our memory leak was fixed with a fix on the BBagent.exe. It should have been included in the MR releases.

we are running 4.1.4.13 of BlackBerryAgent.exe (to Exchange)

The memory leak we are experiencing relates to users who are S/MIME enabled, they are able to send and receive S/MIME messages on the device however when viewing attachments to S/MIME messages the leak occurs. Just checked one of the BES servers and one BlackBerryAgent.exe process is using 1.8gb. that is after less than a day of running on a server with 100 users (we are restarting all agent processes every night because of this).

which memory leak were you experiencing ? and which version of BlackBerryAgent.exe are you running ?

thanks,

[AlanM]

Originally Posted by rsk

we are running 4.1.4.13 of BlackBerryAgent.exe (to Exchange)

The memory leak we are experiencing relates to users who are S/MIME enabled, they are able to send and receive S/MIME messages on the device however when viewing attachments to S/MIME messages the leak occurs. Just checked one of the BES servers and one BlackBerryAgent.exe process is using 1.8gb. that is after less than a day of running on a server with 100 users (we are restarting all agent processes every night because of this).

which memory leak were you experiencing ? and which version of BlackBerryAgent.exe are you running ?

thanks,

Same problem we had. I am running 4.1.4.19. I had four BES servers, each supporting ~375 users and the CPU utilization was pegged out and Memory was dropping like a stone. I'd check the latest MR release because it should have the corrected version in it. If you are leary about adding the MR you can PM me with your email and I'll send you the two files you need to fix it. (requires stopping BES Controller, copying files, restarting BES Controller).

BTW we had to restart the Controller every few hours because our memory was dropping. The problem we had after restarts was that CPU would climb to 90+% until the BBagents had finished feasting on the 4 GB of RAM. To make a Halloween reference (late) the BB agents were like a pack of vampires sucking the life (memory) out of our servers.

[audit]

I'm not concerned as far as waiting for the upgrade. My users won't know the difference anyhow.