[RegisteredUser]

Originally Posted by WorldIRC

So then no, youre not on UMA..simply Wifi. The issue was never getting a foreign blackberry to work on Wifi..its getting them to work on UMA

WorldIRC,

No. I never said mine was working for UMA. The phone is UMA ready and capable.

I have heard issues from others where they are unable to get it to work with Roger's UMA.

Thinking about it, if you have a working VoIP client on the Blackberry WiFi, logically, you don't really need Roger's UMA--just use WiFi.

As I had mentioned before, it is a matter of writing up the codes to work with the Blackberry WiFi device.

[WorldIRC]

I got the Tmobile certs downloaded and certified but still no luck. My friend @ Rim is using engineering firmware on an 8820 and he can enable and disable the UMA feature menus and enter the settings at free will...so, at the software level, I think it's possible. I think its the firmware which is telling the OS to enable or disable it and engineering firmware simply overrides that firmware command...he says whenever he reboots the phone he has to reenable the UMA menu but once its done, he can use it.

[John Clark]

all we need is that method of reenabling the UMA menus. I'm wondering if it's some kind of alt + x x x x code.

[WorldIRC]

Apparantly its in the engineering menus on the engineering OS...Unfortuantely even if one could obtain the software, one would need a dongle to install it.

[WorldIRC]

Even if the menus were enabled though, one would need the ability to modify the server settings. The engineering software allows for this.

[WorldIRC]

John Clark,
Question.

So, you know how we use Blackberry.alx to unlock themes with a different Vendor ID. Do you think its possible that Blackberry.alx for TMOBILE could be used in the same fashion. There's gotta be a code in there somewhere that installs the WIFI / UMA settings by Vendor ID. Perhaps we need to "unlock" this in the same fashion as we would the themes?

[John Clark]

No, there's no .alx edit unlock for that.

[WorldIRC]

Hmm..well there HAS to be a file somewhere to be hacked or prawded at lol. Unless the UMA "menu" is 100% based within the firmware itself and not loaded by the OS...which wouldn't really make sense.

[Berry One]

Originally Posted by RegisteredUser

The real challenge is, getting Linux on Blackberry. Theoretically, it is possible to have Linux on it. It is a matter of writing the codes to work with the device in the first place.

Once there is a working Mobile Linux OS for Blackberry, the possibilities are ENDLESS. A whole bunch of Linux developers from all around the world will jump right in code up stuff, use, reuse, rewrite and patch up the original codes used under the GPL agreement. It'll be like wildfire.

BlackBerry runs Sun certified JVM. All we need is Java developers to start writing apps for blackberry. They can use GPL for their apps, just like GPL applications run on Mac and Win.

This is not about Linux. This is about interest from people who are not paid for their coding to code for blackberry.

My thinking, the blackberry user base is not yet large enough to attract these people.

[santo]

Is UMA not simply an IPSec tunnel to T-mobile's UNC servers? If so, can't an IPSec tunnel be created to Rogers UNC servers? Key information needed for Rogers (T-mobile settings below):

UNC server: punc.t-mobileuncs.com:14001
Security Gateway: psgw.t-mobilesgws.com
T-Mobile certificate: http://mobile.blackberry.com/resourc...obile_root.der

Does anyone know the Rogers settings and possibly where to get the Rogers certificate?

[WorldIRC]

^I think we still require the UMA "menu featureset" to enable it in the OS.

[John Clark]

Yep. Until someone figures out how to do that, you need to stick with your carrier's own device for UMA.

[WorldIRC]

^Does the BETA OS feature the engineering functionality required to unlock UMA?

[stylesx]

Originally Posted by digitalextremes

For those who like to use UMA on Rogers.....the service is now being offered by Rogers

Rogers Home Calling Zone

Enjoy

Im new at this , how will it work and am I limited to getting that Home Calling Zone option added to my plan or will it work without it ?

Thank you

[WorldIRC]

^You need a compatible ROGERS device. You don't have to subscribe to HCZ to use it, but you won't benefit from unlimited airtime.

[RegisteredUser]

Originally Posted by stylesx

Im new at this , how will it work and am I limited to getting that Home Calling Zone option added to my plan or will it work without it ?

Thank you

Stylesx,

If you are not computer savvy enough and you don't mind spending $15 plus tax for something you get for free anyways.... go ahead.

Here are some links where VoIP is possible for Blackberry phones with WiFi. In otherword, you don't need UMA (Rogers's Home Calling Zone).

http://www.nimbuzz.com/en/home

fring – Free mobile calls, and chat with mobile Skype, mobile MSN Messenger, mobile icq, Twitter, AIMxxx174; & Yahoo!xxx8482; and more


If you are always in the WiFi zone: at home by night and at work by day (ie: office), you don't really need Roger's Home Calling Zone.

[stylesx]

Originally Posted by RegisteredUser

Stylesx,

If you are not computer savvy enough and you don't mind spending $15 plus tax for something you get for free anyways.... go ahead.

Here are some links where VoIP is possible for Blackberry phones with WiFi. In otherword, you don't need UMA (Rogers's Home Calling Zone).

http://www.nimbuzz.com/en/home

fring – Make free mobile calls, IM with Skype, MSN Messenger, ICQ, Google Talk™, SIP & Twitter, AIM® & Yahoo!™

If you are always in the WiFi zone: at home by night and at work by day (ie: office), you don't really need Roger's Home Calling Zone.

Thanks for the info, anything more info you may have that would greatly help but i will look at this link and check it out.

Thank you

[stylesx]

Originally Posted by RegisteredUser

Stylesx,

If you are not computer savvy enough and you don't mind spending $15 plus tax for something you get for free anyways.... go ahead.

Here are some links where VoIP is possible for Blackberry phones with WiFi. In otherword, you don't need UMA (Rogers's Home Calling Zone).

http://www.nimbuzz.com/en/home

fring – Free mobile calls, and chat with mobile Skype, mobile MSN Messenger, mobile icq, Twitter, AIM® & Yahoo!™ and more


If you are always in the WiFi zone: at home by night and at work by day (ie: office), you don't really need Roger's Home Calling Zone.

These dont seem to work on blackberry 8320. I downloaded Nimbuzz and it downloaded fine but wont connect to the test, do I need any special settings?

Thank you

[stylesx]

Still didn't get Nimbuzz to work even after adding the APN settings for Rogers. Still get the Socket Connection failed and HTTP Connection Failed messages

[santo]

Hi stylesx,

Check your TCP settings (Options > Advanced Options > TCP)


For Rogers:
APN: internet.com
Username for APN: wapuser1
Password for APN: wap

For other carriers have a look at http://www.nimbuzz.com/en/pages/operator_settings

Hope this helps.