[bebo69]

Awesome themes,great work!!!

[Perfect Storm]

Thought I'd take the Leopard theme a step farther. The second shot came from a simulator in order to capture the transition.
And no, it's not for download. And no I won't be sharing the methods used. Sorry.

[benisntfunny]

Originally Posted by Perfect Storm

And no, it's not for download. And no I won't be sharing the methods used. Sorry.

Why post it then?

[troutab81]

Originally Posted by benisntfunny

Why post it then?

I agree. I would love to see a Today Plus type theme for the 8800. Any ideas how?

[Spike41615]

Originally Posted by Perfect Storm

Thought I'd take the Leopard theme a step farther. The second shot came from a simulator in order to capture the transition.
And no, it's not for download. And no I won't be sharing the methods used. Sorry.

http://www.petermac.ca/leopard/leopard1.jpeg

http://www.petermac.ca/leopard/leopard3.jpeg

http://www.petermac.ca/leopard/leopard2.jpeg

I third that. Dont post it unless you're going to share it.

[Perfect Storm]

Originally Posted by benisntfunny

Why post it then?

As a proof of concept for what can be done with theme builder

[benisntfunny]

Originally Posted by Perfect Storm

As a proof of concept for what can be done with theme builder

Again, it's a pointless post if you're not going give any information aside from the "Look what I can do and you can't" type.

If you don't have feedback on the theme or anything worth contributing that will benefit others please do not bother posting in this thread. Knowledge hording is a tad ridiculous and childish if you ask me. Especially if you're doing it using a free theme building application and what appears to be a modified T-Mobile template.

[Perfect Storm]

Originally Posted by benisntfunny

Again, it's a pointless post if you're not going give any information aside from the "Look what I can do and you can't" type.

If you don't have feedback on the theme or anything worth contributing that will benefit others please do not bother posting in this thread. Knowledge hording is a tad ridiculous and childish if you ask me. Especially if you're doing it using a free theme building application and what appears to be a modified T-Mobile template.

So by your logic source code for every application developed in a free text editor should be made available to the public? I guess virtually every software company is childish!

RIM sells themes to carriers, and for big bucks. Were I to publicly disclose how to use theme builder to make completely custom themes, I would be damaging this. You can whine and criticize all you want, I'm not going to do it.

The point here is to prove the people who say theme builder is too limited wrong.

[Spike41615]

Originally Posted by Perfect Storm

So by your logic source code for every application developed in a free text editor should be made available to the public? I guess virtually every software company is childish!

RIM sells themes to carriers, and for big bucks. Were I to publicly disclose how to use theme builder to make completely custom themes, I would be damaging this. You can whine and criticize all you want, I'm not going to do it.

The point here is to prove the people who say theme builder is too limited wrong.

Whatever dude, those are different circumstances. Although, i do thank you for being such an ass. IS there any other HELPFUL information you care to oh so kindly share with us?!?!

[Perfect Storm]

Originally Posted by Spike41615

Whatever dude, those are different circumstances. Although, i do thank you for being such an ass. IS there any other HELPFUL information you care to oh so kindly share with us?!?!

There's really no reason to get so wired up.

[xspwy]

Some people will get wired over anything. While I understand that everyone wants the coolest phone and the coolest themes/ringers and so on, let's remember this is a forum about a device. A phone!
I agree that the ol' nah nah nah nah nah I have something that you don't have is a little third grader-ish, but who cares. The forums are about sharing and passing on info to each other and if he doesn't want to play, it's his own choosing. I guess I am just old fashioned xxx8211; I use my BB for email and phone calls.


One thing that I have a beef with is how Perfect Storm said, "RIM sells themes to carriers, and for big bucks" - and yet you still posted the leopard theme.

[akosnitzky]

Originally Posted by Perfect Storm

The point here is to prove the people who say theme builder is too limited wrong.

Allow me to give you props for your talent. Heck. I can't make the simplest of themes. Your point was not understood before.

Had you prefaced with the above, the group may have reacted a bit differently.

One of the down sides to written communication is that we cannot guess, where your emotions are or even your intentions.

Rather, we have to rely on the written word with no middle ground.

Maybe there is something you can share that will help the others better their products, without infringing on your Picasso above? Think about it.

[benisntfunny]

Originally Posted by Perfect Storm

The point here is to prove the people who say theme builder is too limited wrong.

It is limited to the tools and documentation they give you.

For me, Theme Builder is limited. The templates I'm provided with and according to the documentation they are the only ones available to me and anyone else who downloads it. Just because you have found a way to edit other templates in there doesn't all of a sudden say Theme Builder has so much more functionality. It says you found a way to edit the T-mobile theme with Theme Builder and you don't want to tell anyone.

I don't think anyone here would argue that if more templates were available theme builder would be able to use them. Also, most times I've complained about Theme Builder's limited functionality it has come in the way of things you can't do with it... such as I can't move the applications screen up 25 pixels as needed, i can't change the font for incoming calls. These are not options provided by theme builder. If you know another way to do it outside of the theme builder that's super but it doesn't make the actual program any more useful.

[aerobb]

Seems by posting screen shots but not even a way to download it (for free or to buy) might indicate to some people that you photoshopped the whole thing and it really doesnt exist you just want some weird credit to be "on top of the moutain"

[Perfect Storm]

Originally Posted by aerobb

Seems by posting screen shots but not even a way to download it (for free or to buy) might indicate to some people that you photoshopped the whole thing and it really doesnt exist you just want some weird credit to be "on top of the moutain"

I knew someone would say that in the hopes that I'd need to prove you wrong. Frankly I don't care if that's what you want to think, heck I'll even say that you're right and leave you be.


Here's what I will say regarding my reluctance to share:
1) Essentially what I've done is reverse engineered the process that theme builder takes. I happen to be familiar with this process and was therefore able to do it with nothing but theme builder and this knowledge. As far as I know it's not something that can be shared.

2) It involves a very solid familiarity with number of languages as well as windows and linux (at least the way I did it) and the BlackBerry platform. These take months to learn and can't just be explained.

3) As I've already mentioned I'm not going to start telling people how to make the themes that RIM does. It's part of their business, and I'm not taking away from that. Some PMs have offered my money for information on this. I won't take it, thanks.

4) This was A LOT of work. Far more than anyone puts into the usual icon and colour change in theme builder. Call it vanity but I'd rather that work go into making something original and unique for myself, than to give it out to every joe blow on the street.


Now, if you want a place to start your own changes, I will say that the theme .properties files are a good place to look.

[Mandizzle]

Great looking theme you got there.... going to d/l it and the today theme and give them a try.

And Perfect Storm you have made a fantastic theme for yourself.

Good job guys...

[aerobb]

How are you going to download it when he has stated that he isnt sharing it?

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by aerobb

How are you going to download it when he has stated that he isnt sharing it?

I believe Mandizzle is going to download the very first leopard theme that benisntfunny made and posted for everyone to download.

[dottedlinegirl]

I noticed that, using the 8300 Leopard Today theme, with the Y!Go and Google Maps applications, the menu gets "hidden"-- that is, it shows up for a split second, then disappears, but it's still active because I can scroll through it (the problem being, each time I move up and down the menu, the menu makes itself visible again only via the brief flicker before vanishing again).

Haven't noticed this occur with any other application on the BB, native or 3rd party... anyone else having this problem?

benisntfunny: would it be possible to fix this? (maybe for "version two"?)

[b3n_asian_freak]

Dude, your work is awesome!!!! Keep it coming !!!!!!!!!!!