[tDotBB]

Originally Posted by bb_tech

This device is geared more towards large companies with wlan networks already. With this device you have NO monthly fee because it doesn't connect to a carrier network. Also, it is a good device for health care as GPRS, etc. devices aren't allowed in hospitals.

bb_tech's got it right. From what I gather, RIM's intention is to sell more devices to corporates that don't want to pay a carrier for phone/email access for mobile employees ON CAMPUS. Medical's probably a target too as bb_tech suggests. Palms are the device of choice for the medical profession right now, and RIM probably wants a piece of that.

Imagine the guy (or gal) that works on the factory floor whom you want to get a quick response from. The guy's rarely at his desk, but always needs to be in contact. Why pay a carrier $60/month/employee when you can just buy the device (and probably capitalize the cost) and he's good to go for years? Pretty good security too, since the device only works 'on campus'.

Why even bother giving the guy the option to use it off campus? He's not a mobile worker in the true sense of the word, as he only works on campus. No sense paying monthly bills for this guy, but you want him to be able to communicate wherever he's at work.

[bophasa]

So this will be Wi/Fi only?

[NJBlackBerry]

Yes. WiFi only.

[WirelessGuy]

Can't say a word about them right now. :( But expect some comments once they go public. Sorry to tease you all.

[T-Roy]

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http://www.blackberry.com/products/b...erry7270.shtml

[Tom]

http://www.blackberryforums.com/view...?p=29279#29279

[zygut]

Did anyone get one of these 7270's? I can't find anywhere online where the price of the unit is disclosed, you have to enter a form on the RIM site to get a sales rep to call you. My guess is that they only do bulk orders.

[d_fisher]

I dont think you have to do bulk orders, but you do have to purchase it directly from RIM. Your using a cellular network, so none of the carriers are going to see it.

[zygut]

Any ideas what they cost? It would be a nice wifi device, if it were outrageously expensive.

[wakko]

Originally Posted by zygut

Any ideas what they cost? It would be a nice wifi device, if it were outrageously expensive.

I've been evaling two units from rim for about four months now. At the time they were shipped to me they were listed at $499 "with modest discounts at 10 and 100 units per order"

There is a bit more upfront cost, but by not having a monthly data charge, you save in the long run. Of course, provided that the use case of a wifi blackberry works for your users

[Postalrecon]

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry7520/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/103)

This may be a weird question, but what's the point of having a blackberry on a wi-fi network in your office if you're there to receive your emails?

[Postalrecon]

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry7520/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/103)

This may be a weird question, but what's the point of having a blackberry on a wi-fi network in your office if you're there to receive your emails?

[tomryan]

Originally Posted by Postalrecon

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry7520/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/103)

This may be a weird question, but what's the point of having a blackberry on a wi-fi network in your office if you're there to receive your emails?

Lets say you work on a large campus that his VOIP and WIFI available. Anywhere you go, you can access your email and the pbx.

[Postalrecon]

Originally Posted by tomryan

Lets say you work on a large campus that his VOIP and WIFI available. Anywhere you go, you can access your email and the pbx.

but what about once you leave, i see the purpose of that, now could you get on someone elses network and make calls?

[wakko]

Originally Posted by Postalrecon

but what about once you leave, i see the purpose of that, now could you get on someone elses network and make calls?

Similar to your laptop, it can be set up to associate with multiple wifi networks. The only restriction right now is it doesn't support gateway access (ie starbucks, t-mobile; where you have to log in) Also it supports a handlful of vpn concentrators, it has the client built in. So, if you hop on to your friend's wi-fi network, you can enable the vpn and you're connected to your bes and sip server.

[SkyPilot]

Originally Posted by tomryan

Lets say you work on a large campus that his VOIP and WIFI available. Anywhere you go, you can access your email and the pbx.

This is not 7270 related just wanted to say hello to a fellow tom ryan
SkyPilot
telus 7520

[Trugoy]

I just got my hands on an eval 7270 unit, but haven't been able to get Wireless Enterprise Activation to work, it doesn't show up in Options. Any ideas if this is possible?

[phrider]

Originally Posted by wakko

Similar to your laptop, it can be set up to associate with multiple wifi networks. The only restriction right now is it doesn't support gateway access (ie starbucks, t-mobile; where you have to log in) Also it supports a handlful of vpn concentrators, it has the client built in. So, if you hop on to your friend's wi-fi network, you can enable the vpn and you're connected to your bes and sip server.

T-Mobile Hotspots WiFi will do WAP/TKIP/TTLS/PAP authentication (with a server crtificate from domain t-mobile.com) on some WiFi cards. It wouldn't work for my Intel card/ software, however. Can the 7270 do WAP authentication?

[wakko]

Originally Posted by Trugoy

I just got my hands on an eval 7270 unit, but haven't been able to get Wireless Enterprise Activation to work, it doesn't show up in Options. Any ideas if this is possible?

As far as I can tell the 7270's must be activated directly against the bes

[wakko]

Originally Posted by phrider

T-Mobile Hotspots WiFi will do WAP/TKIP/TTLS/PAP authentication (with a server crtificate from domain t-mobile.com) on some WiFi cards. It wouldn't work for my Intel card/ software, however. Can the 7270 do WAP authentication?

I don't know specifically about wap authentication, but I don't believe it currently supports it. This was a limitation at the time I had my discussion with rim. I asked specifically if there were any wifi restrictions, and the response was it needed to be an open or wep secure (no wpa support yet) access point. Starbucks type hotspots where the user must authenticate would not work. So certificate auth would not work in this case. I think they mentioned future plans to support this, but I haven't been following the latest updates with this device.