[Preroll]

Anybody have any experience regarding Verizon's OS v.4.5.0.77 for the
8330? I keep hearing conflicting problems regarding this software:

1) Unstable - wait for v.4.5.0.97
2) Doesn't work well with Google Maps Mobile
3) Needs DM 4.6 to install v.4.5.x.x OS (yet Verizon is still pushing
DM 4.5)
4) HTML emails don't always load - depends upon email provider
5) yada yada yada

I'm beyond confused and was anxious to switch since I am using v.
4.3.0.127. Version 4.3.0.127 has issues with the media player recognizing
over 1000 songs on the memory card. Supposedly v.4.5 fixes this?!?! Also, I would like to upgrade to a 16GB card. Someone else mentioned a higher release was needed for the 16GB card to be recognized?

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

Thanks!

[arieltf]

I've been using v4.5.0.77 for about a month. It has been very stable. I used DM v4.5 with no problems. I have had no problems with HTML mail from Comcast (two accounts), Earthlink, and Gmail.

The only problem I have is that the prompt to delete email "On Handheld" or "On Mailbox & Handheld" only works on two of four email accounts: one Comcast and the Earthlink accounts.

--Ariel

[corybarwick]

Originally Posted by Preroll

Anybody have any experience regarding Verizon's OS v.4.5.0.77 for the
8330? I keep hearing conflicting problems regarding this software:

1) Unstable - wait for v.4.5.0.97
2) Doesn't work well with Google Maps Mobile
3) Needs DM 4.6 to install v.4.5.x.x OS (yet Verizon is still pushing
DM 4.5)
4) HTML emails don't always load - depends upon email provider
5) yada yada yada

I'm beyond confused and was anxious to switch since I am using v.
4.3.0.127. Version 4.3.0.127 has issues with the media player recognizing
over 1000 songs on the memory card. Supposedly v.4.5 fixes this?!?! Also, I would like to upgrade to a 16GB card. Someone else mentioned a higher release was needed for the 16GB card to be recognized?

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

Thanks!

First, the VZW version of .77 is the same as any other carrier's version from what I can tell. I have been running 4.5 (multiple versions) for quite some time now and I am pleased with them. To answer your questions specifically:

1. .77 is not unstable. .97 is out on the internet for the 8330 in beta so if you want to run that, go to the Beta You Than Me forum to find out what people are saying. The biggest problem with the 4.5 OS is a "speaker blast" where you phone turns on speaker phone for like 2 seconds when you answer a call. It's kind of annoying, but it is a repeated problem in all 4.5 so far that I have run. Hopefully this will be fixed in the .1xx release whenever that surfaces.

2. I don't use Google Maps Mobile but if it's anything like BB Maps, it should work fine. Since VZW locks down GPS unless you buy VZ Nav, I would say just use BB Maps (or VZ Nav if you have it). This would not be a reason to not upgrade in my opinion.

3. I am not sure what version of DM you need (I am running 4.6). It doesn't take that long to upgrade that software, so again, not a reason to not upgrade. Try the upgrade with 4.5 and if that doesn't work, download 4.6. I am pretty sure that I have upgraded to a 4.5.0.xx release with DM 4.5 at some point. I don't see why this wouldn't work.

4. HTML should load unless you are a BES and the admin doesn't have that feature enabled. Most people that are running this aren't having any problems with NEW HTML mails. Keep in mind, the upgrade will not convert any OLD e-mails already synced to your phone to HTML. You do have to make sure that you have the HTML feature enabled on the phone though.

The media player on the 4.5 is a lot tighter than old one. I don't have more than 1,000 songs on my phone so I can't speak for sure on your problem, but from everything that I have read, the media player was one of the bigger fixes in the 4.5 release. As for the SD card, that's a phone limitation. I don't think that the Curve (any model) will support a 16GB card, but I could be wrong. I know that the new Storm supposedly will support up to 32GB but I don't think that the Curve has the same capabilities.

Hope that this helps.

[pshift]

.97 in use here on the 8330. No real issues, except the speaker blast is now intermittent. It's also more responsive than .77.

[jacob06]

I have a friend that I am helping and she is doing the same thing..we removed her DM and the OS of the computer...then install 4.5 and the 4.5 O.S. but when she goes back into it and does the upgrade for the phone it says everything is updated...yet the phone OS is still 4.3? WHY? We are flustered..I did the upgrade for kmy 8130 no issues.

[corybarwick]

Originally Posted by jacob06

I have a friend that I am helping and she is doing the same thing..we removed her DM and the OS of the computer...then install 4.5 and the 4.5 O.S. but when she goes back into it and does the upgrade for the phone it says everything is updated...yet the phone OS is still 4.3? WHY? We are flustered..I did the upgrade for kmy 8130 no issues.

Did you delete the vendor.xml file?

[jacob06]

Well that should be a non issue becasue Verizion is the carrier..it might be worth a try

[zerog46]

Did you read this.

Fix Discovered for OS Upgrade Gone Haywire! | BlackBerryNews.com

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Thanks for the tips. I may wait this out since 4.3 seems to work OK minus the HTML mail and the quirky media player. Don't know if I want to deal with the speaker blast bug but if in fact I do go forward, how hard is it to wipe it out and downgrade OS's back from say 4.5 to 4.3? Someone mentioned downloading JL_Cmder to resolve this properly or is there another more effective way to wipe (or is wiping even necessary)?

Thx!

[daphne]

I have not had the media blast bug with 4.5.0.77 , and I'm pretty sure I have over 1,000 songs. Didn't count them but I have over 5 gigs of music with no problems. Google Maps works fine, too.

Here's the skinny on media cards.

What type and size Media Card can I use in my device? - BlackBerryFAQ

BlackBerry Device Software 4.3.0 -- Up to 8 GB

BlackBerry Device Software 4.5.0 -- Up to 8 GB

BlackBerry Device Software 4.5.0.81 and above -- Up to 16 GB

BlackBerry Device Software 4.6.0 -- Up to 32 GB

[Preroll]

Well, I guess I'm stuck for the moment with v.4.3.0.127 then. I have about 12GB of music that I'd like to put on so I would need the 16GB card but if it's .81+ for that to work, I will need to wait since Verizon only officially released .77 (unless of course I can find it elsewhere). Anyone know where to get .81? Just worried about how to downgrade OS's if I need to.

Ok, thanks!