|
|
|
10-15-2006, 05:38 PM
|
#1
|
CrackBerry Addict
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Philly, PA
Model: 3GS
Carrier: at&t
Posts: 536
|
3g?
Please Login to Remove!
When will BlackBerry release a device using the 3G technology? What service providers? Is it worth the wait?
|
Offline
|
|
10-15-2006, 05:55 PM
|
#2
|
Latino Hasta La Muerte
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Denville, NJ.
Model: 9370
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 9,063
|
The 8100 is 3G-ready now, but T-Mobile is not. They should be rolling out their 3G network in early 2007, with some testing in limited markets (big cities) starting right about now. I believe Seattle is first up, and hopefully New York is not too far behind.
|
Offline
|
|
10-15-2006, 06:13 PM
|
#3
|
CrackBerry Addict
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Philly, PA
Model: 3GS
Carrier: at&t
Posts: 536
|
What about Cingular? Cingular should be rolling out the 8100 as early as November or by end of 1st quarter 2007. If the phone is initially on EDGE, can it be switched to 3G when 3G is up and running?
|
Offline
|
|
10-15-2006, 06:29 PM
|
#4
|
BlackBerry Extraordinaire
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Model: BOLD
OS: 5.0.0.348
Carrier: At&t
Posts: 1,376
|
How will you know when you are on a 3g network? Will it say something other than EDGE??
|
Offline
|
|
10-15-2006, 06:38 PM
|
#5
|
CrackBerry Addict
Join Date: Sep 2006
Model: 8700g
Carrier: NO One
Posts: 811
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by walds11
When will BlackBerry release a device using the 3G technology? What service providers? Is it worth the wait?
|
i thought 8707 contains 3G band. Or did you mean when will BB release a device using 3G in US?
__________________
-- TMO Blackberry 8700g since 09/24/2006
|
Offline
|
|
10-15-2006, 06:46 PM
|
#6
|
CrackBerry Addict
Join Date: Sep 2006
Model: 8700g
Carrier: NO One
Posts: 811
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by rambo47
The 8100 is 3G-ready now, but T-Mobile is not. They should be rolling out their 3G network in early 2007, with some testing in limited markets (big cities) starting right about now. I believe Seattle is first up, and hopefully New York is not too far behind.
|
hmm.. i checked the US 8100 and it is not 3G ready yet thou. Is the EU 8100 going to be 3G ready?
__________________
-- TMO Blackberry 8700g since 09/24/2006
|
Offline
|
|
10-15-2006, 07:02 PM
|
#7
|
CrackBerry Addict
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Philly, PA
Model: 3GS
Carrier: at&t
Posts: 536
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by jungleland
How will you know when you are on a 3g network? Will it say something other than EDGE??
|
That's what I want to know. If the Cingular 8100 is 3G capable, but the 3G network is not available, will the phone switch to 3G from EDGE when the 3G network is available?
|
Offline
|
|
10-15-2006, 07:06 PM
|
#8
|
Grumpy Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Somewhere in the swamps of Jersey
Model: SGS7
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 27,948
|
Y'all are making this up.
The 8707 uses UMTS, but not the UMTS that Cingular is rolling out in the US. The 8707 uses UMTS 2100 which is not the same.
Where did ANYONE get the notion that the 8100 is "3G ready". Wishful thinking, perhaps.
|
Offline
|
|
10-15-2006, 07:39 PM
|
#9
|
BlackBerry Extraordinaire
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Model: BOLD
OS: 5.0.0.348
Carrier: At&t
Posts: 1,376
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by NJBlackBerry
Y'all are making this up.
The 8707 uses UMTS, but not the UMTS that Cingular is rolling out in the US. The 8707 uses UMTS 2100 which is not the same.
Where did ANYONE get the notion that the 8100 is "3G ready". Wishful thinking, perhaps.
|
I made nothing up..I was just responding to what was posted...
in the back of my head I did think to myself that no Blackberry is FULL 3G capable as of yet...
I assume I am correct in that thought..
|
Offline
|
|
10-15-2006, 07:42 PM
|
#10
|
Grumpy Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Somewhere in the swamps of Jersey
Model: SGS7
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 27,948
|
Ah - well, the answer to your question (as found in the 8707 documentation) is that it will show "3G" and "3G" + a bb symbol when it is on 3G.
I was responding to others who said the 8100 was 3G compatible. I'd like a source on that.
|
Offline
|
|
10-15-2006, 07:53 PM
|
#11
|
BlackBerry Extraordinaire
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Model: BOLD
OS: 5.0.0.348
Carrier: At&t
Posts: 1,376
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by NJBlackBerry
Ah - well, the answer to your question (as found in the 8707 documentation) is that it will show "3G" and "3G" + a bb symbol when it is on 3G.
I was responding to others who said the 8100 was 3G compatible. I'd like a source on that.
|
Do you have an image of this? I will try to find one too...
|
Offline
|
|
10-15-2006, 07:55 PM
|
#12
|
Grumpy Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Somewhere in the swamps of Jersey
Model: SGS7
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 27,948
|
I was on some carriers web site - Maxis Mobile of Malaysia (I am going there in 3 weeks) and I found it there. Showed the 3G symbols and all. On the 8707. I don't have the PDF file.
|
Offline
|
|
10-15-2006, 07:56 PM
|
#13
|
BlackBerry Extraordinaire
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Model: BOLD
OS: 5.0.0.348
Carrier: At&t
Posts: 1,376
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by NJBlackBerry
I was on some carriers web site - Maxis Mobile of Malaysia (I am going there in 3 weeks) and I found it there. Showed the 3G symbols and all. On the 8707. I don't have the PDF file.
|
got it...
http://www.telecomwereld.nl/pic/news/984/bb8707.jpg
|
Offline
|
|
10-15-2006, 08:00 PM
|
#14
|
BlackBerry Extraordinaire
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Model: BOLD
OS: 5.0.0.348
Carrier: At&t
Posts: 1,376
|
I guess the real question is, would I be able to use an UNLOCKED 8707v on cingular...also, is the 8707v GPS capable, would I loose any functionality with the 8707 vs the 8700c?
|
Offline
|
|
10-15-2006, 09:14 PM
|
#15
|
Grumpy Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Somewhere in the swamps of Jersey
Model: SGS7
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 27,948
|
There are several earlier threads on this. The 8707v uses UMTS 2100 which is NOT what Cingular is rolling out. A different frequency.
|
Offline
|
|
10-16-2006, 12:04 AM
|
#16
|
BlackBerry Extraordinaire
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: West Warwick, RI
Model: 9780
PIN: 236676A8
Carrier: TMobile
Posts: 1,213
|
Isn't that just like everything else we do in the U.S. Everyone else uses Metric, we use Standard (ironically named). Europe uses GSM 800,900,1800MHz, we use 850,1900MHz. They use UMTS 2100, Cingular is rolling out a different frequency. Why do we always have to be different? Imagine all the cool devices open to us if we used the same frequency as they do.
__________________
T-Mobile Bold 9780
PIN: 236676A8
|
Offline
|
|
10-16-2006, 08:32 AM
|
#17
|
Knows Where the Search Button Is
Join Date: Oct 2006
Model: 8900
PIN: 20f4d480
Carrier: T-Mobile UK
Posts: 20
|
the 8100 isnt 3G ready, im on t-Mobile UK and if it was surely i would be able to use it ... the gprs is pretty fast though over ere as its an old technology in fact 3G (umts) is old technology with the release of HSDPA (3.5G) which is up to 1.8mbps at present increasing to 10mbps by 2010
btw... i work for T-mobile
feel free to add me to IM
|
Offline
|
|
10-16-2006, 04:01 PM
|
#18
|
BlackBerry Extraordinaire
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Port 3101.org
Model: .
Carrier: .
Posts: 2,491
|
Bottom line is the 8707 is optimised for UMTS networks, all other (new) devices are optimised for EDGE.
|
Offline
|
|
10-16-2006, 07:12 PM
|
#19
|
Thumbs Must Hurt
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Canada
Model: 7250
Carrier: Telus
Posts: 131
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by walds11
When will BlackBerry release a device using the 3G technology? What service providers? Is it worth the wait?
|
Depends when the defense networks switch all their military stuff off of 3G. Japan has had 3G for years now because their military never really used it.
Andrew
|
Offline
|
|
10-17-2006, 05:39 AM
|
#20
|
Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Los Angeles
Model: 9000
OS: 6.0.0.431
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 250
|
Verizon and Sprint have their 3G solutions already, and theyve been out for over a year now. EVDO is what the moniker is used, and it's CDMA. 7250's were capable of it, but the new8703e and 7130's are EVDO capable.
hope this hellps
|
Offline
|
|
|
|