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Lex Luthor · 07-07-2006, 01:23 AM

It's been posted at the BBHub website. Check out the art work for the new BlackBerry with an integrated camera.

http://www.bbhub.com/2006/07/07/worl...a-patent-appl/

mymitsu3kgt · 07-07-2006, 01:36 AM

The pictures are a little basic but it's a good heads up.

mrogers · 07-07-2006, 07:21 AM

LOL the diagram of the BB looks like the really, really old monochrome BlackBerrys of yore.

finch · 07-07-2006, 07:24 AM

That's what I was thinking, 957 anyone!

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Originally Posted by mrogers

LOL the diagram of the BB looks like the really, really old monochrome BlackBerrys of yore.

BBAdmin · 07-07-2006, 09:11 AM

They're obviously just covering bases with the form factor. All the info really tells us nothing of any technical value, but at this stage what more can we expect.

DallasFlier · 07-07-2006, 09:23 AM

Reading through that application and associated drawings as posted, it seems quite clear that this is NOT describing a BlackBerry with a digital camera, but rather a digital camera that can be operated remotely & wirelessly by a BlackBerry, and use the BlackBerry's screen as a remote camera screen.

Which, to me at least, begs a rather obvious question. If I'm going to carry a separate digital camera, just what is the attraction of having it display and be operated by my BlackBerry, vs by controls and a display on the camera itself. Lets see, I get to "aim" the camera while looking at the display on the BlackBerry, and then have to hold both to snap a picture. Thanks, but no thanks.

test · 07-07-2006, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DallasFlier

Which, to me at least, begs a rather obvious question. If I'm going to carry a separate digital camera, just what is the attraction of having it display and be operated by my BlackBerry, vs by controls and a display on the camera itself. Lets see, I get to "aim" the camera while looking at the display on the BlackBerry, and then have to hold both to snap a picture. Thanks, but no thanks.

they already have remote triggers for cameras, obviously not bb's, BUT they exist for multiple reasons. I guess the main and most obvious would be for self portraits, if you want to get a snapshot of you and your friends you dont have to rely on the 10second timer...who knows...

DallasFlier · 07-07-2006, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by test

they already have remote triggers for cameras, obviously not bb's, BUT they exist for multiple reasons. I guess the main and most obvious would be for self portraits, if you want to get a snapshot of you and your friends you dont have to rely on the 10second timer...who knows...

Yep, I know they do - my current digital camera has a very nice, tiny one, works great! I just don't see the attraction of using the BB this way - sure, I can see what's in the viewfinder remotely, but if I don't like what's framed there, I STILL have to walk back to the camera to change it. And my current digital camera is a nice little weatherproof, 8MP model, somehow I doubt an external BlackBerryCamera is going to compete seriously at all. :shrug:

mymitsu3kgt · 07-08-2006, 04:41 PM

Maybe it's a camera that plugs into the data port like some other phones have. That could explain the "remote" camera control.

aphr0deity · 07-08-2006, 06:03 PM

Like ya said...

Thanks, but no thanks.

mymitsu3kgt · 07-08-2006, 06:35 PM

I wouldn't jump for an external plug in camera. A built in one would be much more useful.

tjunkie · 07-09-2006, 05:54 PM

I suppose using external plug in camera (if it's true) rather than a built-in one is for security reason since BB is widely use in Govermental agencies where security is the upmost importance.

bigmattfromjersey · 07-09-2006, 07:23 PM

props. i just hope nextel gets one.

rcbjr · 07-09-2006, 08:11 PM

And the big deal is that you can then email the pic from your BB. Isn't that what everyone wants in a BB with a camera?

Just my $0.02
Rcbjr

DallasFlier · 07-09-2006, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rcbjr

And the big deal is that you can then email the pic from your BB. Isn't that what everyone wants in a BB with a camera?

Nope, not me at least. Lets take stock for a moment. Right now, I can carry two devices - my BlackBerry 8700c and my 8MP weatherproof digital camera with removable memory cards. If I'm taking pictures, I can put the BlackBerry away and use the digital camera as it was meant to be used - all by itself, only one item needed. The way this patent application (hoax?) reads, instead I'll have to USE both items simultaneously to take pictures - get the BlackBerryCamera out (likely a relatively crappy camera, compared to my current digital), point it at what I want a picture of - grab the BlackBerry and see if I managed to point the camera correctly - then while holding the BlackBerry and looking at its display, simultaneously grab the camera and adjust what its pointing at - then use one or more of the QWERTY keys on the BlackBerry to zoom the lens and then snap the picture - all the while having to hold and use BOTH devices simultaneously. NOW that I'm done with that, I can email the picture from my BlackBerry! Yeay! NOT.

The "big deal" about having a camera in my phone, for me, (if there IS a big deal) is ONLY to occasionally snap impromptu pics when I don't happen to have the (MUCH more capable) digital camera with me. If I haven't brought my current digital camera with me, why on earth would I have carried the subpar BlackBerryCamera instead??

rcbjr · 07-09-2006, 09:21 PM

I am one of those that has no desire for a camera in my phone. My Canon EOS digital is just fine. And I doubt that this is a hoax as it was just a patent application downloaded from the USPTO. BBHub is not know for posting hoaxes, however they do post most patent applications filed by RIM.

I haven't read the whole application so am not sure exactly how this might be implemented and won't comment on that. I just posted what I interperted the reason most people desire a camera implemente in a BB from what I have read.

Again Don't need anything to make my BB less reliable.

Thanks from Grand Prairie, neighhbor
Rcbjr.

jdjleo · 07-10-2006, 02:44 AM

I would like to see an external BlackBerry camera attatchment, that would be nice! IMO an onboard camera would be a HUGE mistake, and i seriously doubt we will see that.