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Old 08-14-2007, 11:27 AM   #1
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It is to my understanding that Samrtphones give you the ability to put in your companies information in Active Sync and the phone grabs all data information from the exchange server (mail, calendar etc).

Can the Pearl do this as well without BES?

Can any Blackberry sync all exchange data without BES?
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:57 AM   #2
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BlackBerry devices do not use Active Sync.
They use BlackBerry Desktop Manager.

Without BES, you can sync all of your Outlook PIM data (calendar, contacts, tasks, memos) using BlackBerry Desktop Manager and the USB cable provided with the device.
E-mail does not sync at all. It would be delivered wirelessly to the device using BlackBerry Internet Service (BIS) which would be configured to get mail from your Exchange server. Your Exchange server would need public POP, IMAP or OWA access for this to be possible.
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I understand, however I'm talking about OTA not sync with a cable. Smartphones can sync OTA using Active Sync on the phone for all your exchange information (Calendar/email/meetings etc).
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Well, you never said anything about OTA in your original post. ;)

OTA PIM sync on a BlackBerry device requires BES. Can't be done without it.
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It surprises me that the Blackberry continues to force its users to use BES while Smartphones do not require any additional servers to be purchased to connect.

Ohh well.
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It surprises me that the Blackberry continues to force its users to use BES while Smartphones do not require any additional servers to be purchased to connect.

Ohh well.
Think about that for a moment - Smartphones = WM = Microsoft which also provides ActiveSync and Exchange. RIM is not doing anything any different that Microsoft is - Microsoft just did it in a way that happens to be cheaper for the most part. But then again, Microsoft has a little bit bigger bankroll than RIM does.
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It surprises me that the Blackberry continues to force its users to use BES while Smartphones do not require any additional servers to be purchased to connect.

Ohh well.
Really? It's not at all surprising to me. Good, Intellisync, etc., all provide superior security and device management features, and work with non-Exchange server, for a price.

I'm sure there's a workaround using GooSync and some link between Outlook and Gmail, if one is so inclined.
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It surprises me that the Blackberry continues to force its users to use BES while Smartphones do not require any additional servers to be purchased to connect.
You're certainly not "forced" to use BES. Plenty of people use BIS and are perfectly happy with it. However, if you want features enabled by BES then you do need BES.

It's not "RIM forcing its clients" either as much as it's Microsoft using its typical tactic of undercutting its competitors by throwing in software for free to boost sales of their own products. Even with ActiveSync being included I wouldn't consider WM. The devices are simply too unreliable (certainly from an IT perspective) based on my experiences and they're severely lacking in centralized management. Again, you really need to consider everything and not just the upfront pricing. IT staff, their time, and user dissatisfaction and frustration -- despite the common misconceptions -- aren't free. We are able to use only two members of our IT staff to support hundreds of BB's in our organization and BB support duties are only part time for them. That's definitely worth more than just "free OTA sync". However, YMMV depending on your specific needs and preferences.

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