Any plans to renovate BIS and restore IMAP?
Despite having been a blackberry (Verizon 8330 curve) user for only 2 days, I'm proud of the amount of research I've done on their e-mail system. I'm also extremely disappointed in the whole BIS thing. While I appreciate the long list of benefits of the Curve over my Treo, one thing I definitely did NOT expect is that e-mail would be LESS efficient than on my Treo... It is a BLAcKBERRY after all!
That's because my Treo used Chattermail, which took advantage of IMAP IDLE technology. Which has been around for years. And works - perfectly. I almost never had a problem with that feature... Everything I did on the treo was mimicked beautifully on the web server. (Note, I have NO plans to switch back to Treo!!!). So back to the question at hand... Blackberry's BIS system appears pretty basic. Are they at all rumored to restructure this? Would they add full support for IMAP? In all my searchings, people invariably get a horrible and unpredictable delay in email transmission with the IMAP configuration BIS uses now (polling every 15 minutes or whatever). That's NOT push email! For the record, I'm sticking with the POP system at the moment. At least my emails are getting pushed and I can delete them from the server. Then, at the end of the day, I can sit down and mark all my messages "Read" on gmail's site. But I'd really like to hear that Blackberry is working on a solution to this! Oh, and even an application that allowed IMAP IDLE integration would be sufficient, I think! |
Maybe you need to go back to the Treo? Sounds like you won't be happy with the BB.
Have you looked into BES or a hosted BES solution? That might provide what you are looking for. If I remember correctly from my Treo days, the quickest I could get my email was 15 minutes. BIS is true push email, in that email is pushed to you about every 15 minutes, sometime faster. I don't have to go out and ask for it. I find BIS to be very efficient and it works well for me. I do not see the need for instant, near real time email access. |
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I use a BES and use BIS for other accounts. I find that gmail and yahoo are delivering as fast or faster than my BES email. And if I delete an email received on Yahoo, it deletes it on the web account. Pretty thourough for me. I am unfamiliar with imap so I may be missing something else here that is important to you. |
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Folks I'm not trying to bash blackberry, nor do I want to pay for an additional email service. I also don't want to change my email address, especially when its with one of the most popular providers. My point is simply that I really do think BIS is in need of an overhaul and should take advantage of technology that is already out there. I also like the blackberry two hundred times more than the treo, for everything BUT email. As I said, I'm making do with the BIS pop setup, but I'm wondering about their future. |
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I thought about this option as well but it takes me a step backward. Messages edited on the blackberry won't have ANY impact on the gmail account. Ill be getting less synchronization, not more. |
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This system works for me. |
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You could subscribe to yahoo plus and then you could access via outlook. |
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I have 2 Gmail accounts and 2 Google Apps Gmail accounts on my BB and they all work the same exact way; 90 times out of 100 the mail is on my BB before Outlook via IMAP. Idunno. Gmail IMAP to Outlook or Thunderbird is nearly instantaneous. My BB is just that much faster. |
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With IMAP (using IDLE), the emails are not only pushed instantaneously, but blackberry and webmail are sync'd perfectly, all the time. Trust me, when you've had this, you don't want to take a step back to POP. My treo did this flawlessly, and I can't see why Blackberry wouldn't either. |
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Sounds like you should use yahoo. It does all of this except pop from your computer. But marks read, deletes, etc. |
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You're right, yahoo does sound like it works better. But I'm not sure why they won't add those couple of features into gmail. I will give it some time before I go setting up a new email address. |
You can also use the gmail application on your blackberry. It is not as instant, but if you delete or read, it will update on the web.
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Ok thanks. Sounds like there's a bunch of different ways to get all the features, but no single way. |
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...not to mention that you get your Calendar with these services, which ChatterMail did not do on the Treo. Rumors circulating say that Contacts synchronization will soon come, as well. ...or you could look at the BlackBerry Unite! product for use on your home computer. |
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any idea when 2.5 will release? Also, I know about google's app for sync but does yahoo have one as well? Last question, if I have been on BES (personal, hosted), will I be unhappy with everything else? Thanks............. |
After OS 4.5 would be my guess... so perhaps by the end of summer? I rarely dive into the BIS side of the house, aside from a basic configuration of my personal GMail account. I think the trade-off from annual expenses on BES (additional monthly fees for the hosted BES and Enterprise BlackBerry Plan) would leave you more than happy with BIS :)
...atleast if I had to pay for any of my services, I'd probably feel that way. |
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