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Dubdub 03-08-2013 12:27 PM

US Z10 release
 
According to Kevin Tofel of gigaom.com, it will be released by AT&T on March 22nd.

Bloomberg: BlackBerry Z10 to have a March 22 launch on AT&T — Tech News and Analysis

fourstringfuror 03-08-2013 01:54 PM

Re: US Z10 release
 
Based on that, I can expect my local VZW store to get theirs around Arbor Day.

dc/dc 03-11-2013 11:14 AM

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Confirmations:
T-Mobile to begin selling BlackBerry Z10 to business customers March 11th for $249.99 (update)

BlackBerry Z10 coming to AT&T March 22nd for $199.99, pre-orders open tomorrow

shootsscores 03-29-2013 08:40 AM

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Got mine on March 28 at noon from Verizon. TH kept his promise of full release of BB10 in the first quarter. The guy has delivered again. He cut it close but did it. Now, when does PB10 make its debut?

dc/dc 03-29-2013 09:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shootsscores (Post 1801311)
Got mine on March 28 at noon from Verizon. TH kept his promise of full release of BB10 in the first quarter. The guy has delivered again. He cut it close but did it. Now, when does PB10 make its debut?

Please stop.

NJBlackBerry 03-29-2013 09:31 AM

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No end to the Koolaid, is there.

shootsscores 03-29-2013 11:20 AM

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LMAO! Nothing I posted was counterfactual. I got my z delivered on release day and BB10 was officially launched in the first quarter.

dc/dc 03-29-2013 11:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shootsscores (Post 1801333)
LMAO! Nothing I posted was counterfactual. I got my z delivered on release day and BB10 was officially launched in the first quarter.

You're missing the point.

shootsscores 03-29-2013 11:26 AM

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The name change from RIM to BlackBerry is significant. The company is, under TH, now meeting deadlines.

dc/dc 03-29-2013 11:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shootsscores (Post 1801338)
The name change from RIM to BlackBerry is significant. The company is, under TH, now meeting deadlines.

Not significant at all, and they're not meeting deadlines. This device was supposed to be out almost two years ago. I'm glad it's out now, but it didn't meet any deadlines.

shootsscores 03-29-2013 12:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dc/dc (Post 1801342)
Not significant at all, and they're not meeting deadlines. This device was supposed to be out almost two years ago. I'm glad it's out now, but it didn't meet any deadlines.

It was RIM back then. Under TH, the company has been meeting deadlines. Sorry that you seem so jaded. No promises made for "PB10" except in a vague way. I'll suppose that I'll get almost as sour as you if we don't see a major PB update by the fall.

One more thing, the name change also signifies a new business model. One that will see the eventual end of BIS and its subscriber fees.

NJBlackBerry 03-29-2013 12:15 PM

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Where are the apps that they mentioned on 30 January? Skype for one. Lost 3mm more subscribers. And the corporate name is still Research in Motion. The symbol changed.

The hype and koolaid are strong within this one.

shootsscores 03-29-2013 12:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NJBlackBerry (Post 1801350)
Where are the apps that they mentioned on 30 January? Skype for one. Lost 3mm more subscribers. And the corporate name is still Research in Motion. The symbol changed.

The hype and koolaid are strong within this one.

Love your rudeness. :smile:

I would have thought the subscriber issue was pretty damn obvious. Owners of BB10 devices are no longer BB subscribers by definition (unless BES). They no longer subscribe to BIS.

As for Skype? It'll be along when Skype wants it to. It isn't a RIM controlled circumstance.

And, yes, BB has a tough go to regain the clichéd "mindshare" in the US where most phone consumers still have no idea that there is a completely new phone on the market.

NJBlackBerry 03-29-2013 12:30 PM

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Are you making an invalid excuse for the subscriber loss? BlackBerry knows exactly how many people are using their devices. Are you claiming that there are no loses and that they simply can't be counted anymore?

Another excuse for missing apps.

shootsscores 03-29-2013 01:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NJBlackBerry (Post 1801356)
Are you making an invalid excuse for the subscriber loss? BlackBerry knows exactly how many people are using their devices. Are you claiming that there are no loses and that they simply can't be counted anymore?

Another excuse for missing apps.

I own a Z10 and am therefore no longer a subscriber to BIS. No BB10 owners will be subscribers. The subscriber base is down and that must be reflected in the quarterly reports by law.

There are losses to be sure in the US. Market share is down. Device launches have gone well in non US markets and massive anti BB sentiment in the US abounds. Going to be tough there. Surely we can agree on something so painfully obvious or are you going to argue that all is well in the US for Blackberry?

BB made it plain that they are exiting the BIS business in due course and I understand their reasoning.

NJBlackBerry 03-29-2013 01:23 PM

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That is the silliest thing I have ever heard.
Are you using BBM? Or BlackBerry Application World?

Then they know you are there.

You are digging the hole deeper and deeper. Stop now.

dc/dc 03-29-2013 02:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NJBlackBerry (Post 1801363)
That is the silliest thing I have ever heard.
Are you using BBM? Or BlackBerry Application World?

Then they know you are there.

You are digging the hole deeper and deeper. Stop now.

Yep. BlackBerry ID is how they count subscribers now.

shootsscores 03-29-2013 03:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NJBlackBerry (Post 1801363)
That is the silliest thing I have ever heard.
Are you using BBM? Or BlackBerry Application World?

Then they know you are there.

You are digging the hole deeper and deeper. Stop now.

I'm hardly digging holes and your churlishness is charming. The US is a major pain for BB. I suppose you're now going to claim that it's not. :smile:

It will be interesting to see what the numbers look like next quarter following the recent launch.

NJBlackBerry 03-29-2013 03:19 PM

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I guess you now have realized that BlackBerry can count the number of customers so you have moved on.

Yes, I am aware that the US is a problem. BlackBerry caused the problem by not recognizing the threat (apps on phones) and denying it. And now they are trying to dig out of their hole. With limited marketing and a 1.0 OS on nice hardware.

So far their efforts have been weak. We'll certainly see what this quarter looks like. It is going to be a long, difficult road.

dc/dc 03-29-2013 03:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shootsscores (Post 1801372)
I'm hardly digging holes and your churlishness is charming. The US is a major pain for BB. I suppose you're now going to claim that it's not. :smile:

It will be interesting to see what the numbers look like next quarter following the recent launch.

No, you're digging holes and spouting nonsense.


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