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What's the new and best software for Storm 9530???
Hey what's good BB people???
I have a question that I will like to know right away!!! Which software is the best for the STORM .109 , .113 , .114, or .161 I read many threads that people say one is good and the other one is good so I don't know which is the best and What's the website that I can go for download this Software???? Also there is any website that we can get free themes for Storm??? |
The best one is the one that works best for you. Simple as that.
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but there are many out there!!! right now!!!!! I want one which work fast and don't have any restriction like one!!! that I saw which have no key for the numbers when you r checking ur voicemail!!!
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lighten up sunshine. We are not here to serve you!! Ask politely notice no one is answering your posts.
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as far as your question...the latest version is normally better as long as it has passed a stability test of some type...because Verizon has not officially released a version higher than the .75, for the storm it is probably best to stick with the .75 version...beta versions are typically unstable i have not tried any of the leaked beta versions because i prefer to stay within the bounds of the release candidates when talkling about OS upgrades...but apparently many of the latest releases are much much faster and include some much needed features...animations are smoothed out, the accelerometer transitions are smoothed out and so on... what version are you currently using? let me submit this and look and see if you put that and by the way, are you a vodafone or verizon user? that apparently matters for some reason...not sure why because the OS should be the same minus the tweaks...it's like having a different version of Windows Vista depending on your ISP...weird concept |
and i have not seen any free themes for the storm although i have not looked on the app store for them...i bet they exist though probably not very good...i like the elecite themes
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--= THEMES Elicite themes: Elecite - Premium BlackBerry Themes iVista 2 theme: iVista 2 - Themes BlackBerry Software - Crackberry Store iBerry Neo theme: Bplay : BlackBerry Themes : iBerry Neo =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--= |
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to be specific the OS is the same, because they would not spend the time to design it per each device....that is a waste of time and money when it would port nicely to each phone just by updating the hardware layer of the OS so the firmware (hardware layer) is different between different devices, but the OS itself is the same....in fact i have the same OS as most people on other BB models...not counting the Verizon and Vodafone storms in either case, my phone is GSM capable, it just is just primarily CDMA like you mentioned |
So far I have .75 !!! and I have Verizon!!!
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i'd say stick with the .75 until Verizon officially releases the .113 or whatever version
but join the protests about the hold out by Verizon to release it...they could at least let us know why they have yet to release it into the wild while other services like Vodafone got an official update already but what i recently learned is that Vodafone owns 45% of Verizon so this makes it a more interesting equation and battle of power...not sure how that would play down to the day to day decisions of the company... |
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if this is true, then what is the version number of the OS for the 9500 and what is the version number for the 9530?
how does RIM differentiate either internally or externally from the company about the "supposedly" different operating systems if the version number system is of the same caliber, function, and specificity per the OS? for instance, two versions of the OS exist with the same version number for the 9500 and 9530...how are they telling the difference apart and what differences exist in the actual code and functionality of the OS? |
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what do the developers call the OS...and how do they test it? and what's the version number for the OS? and so on... it's all the same and they use a blackberry device simulator and it's mostly all done in java so it's very portable from hardware to hardware...i really don't think there is much difference between a 9500 and a 9530...very minor differences...all of that is essentially driver programs that exist for the firmware of the phone... |
the underlying OS is the same...same same same same same....
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and what i meant internally or externally is what do they call the OS versions in internal memos to each other? version what?
do they have teams of guys working on an OS for each model of phone at RIM? i doubt it...they have one OS and they created a hardware abstraction layer to interface between different hardware configurations...it's a layered OS design.... Operating System Abstraction Layer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia File:Operating system placement.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
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I dont get what's so hard to understand... each device has its own OS, even though its the same model phone (storm) doesnt mean the OS for the 9500 is the same as the 9530. They really arent the same buddy....
dc/dc is right. enough said |
they did not redesign the entire OS per each phone....so what does that mean to you...?
unarmed...whatever...you're so lame you hide behind your blackberry forum moniker...tell me your real name and stand by what you say...prove they are difference operating systems...give me proof...documentation...citations....introspect... |
of course they wont redesign each os from the ground up.... thats just a waste of time
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blackberry os is blackberry os....they do not have blackberry storm os and blackberry bold os....it is the same OS....they added a layer between the hardware that supports the hardware that is different, but the OS itself is the same...however, there is also a UI layer that abstracts from the OS for device differences such as from the Storm to the Bold...in the case of the 9500 and 9530 it is probably all in the hardware layer that any changes exist...the UI layer is the same...and so is the internal layer..
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or at what point do the operating systems differ? and how do they tell them apart?
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basically the UI is just a theme...the OS is BB OS...and the true firmware is the hardware abstraction layer that is varying from device to device because of the different microprocessors and other hardware components...
even this blackberry forum calls it the same OS...it's called the Research in Motion Operating System...but i think that is a misnomer...it's really BlackBerry although RIM and BB are almost synonymous... basically, tell me what other mobile operating systems exist besides the following: Symbian Windows Mobile BlackBerry iPhone Android because there is only one version of BB OS that i know of |
just read what this says about smartphones to get a better idea of what they really are:
Smartphone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Comparison of smartphones - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Smartphone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
Firmware - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Smartphone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Hardware abstraction layer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Microkernel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Application programming interface - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_(computer_science) Memory management unit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Computer multitasking - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Computer data storage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Computer data storage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
all useful stuff to learn about why the BB Storm is a computer
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You are arguing that the OS is Blackberry when RIM uses OS to differentiate the firmware for each device. The problem with your argument is that you told the OP he could load a 9500 OS onto a 9530 and as you were told and disagreed with you can't do that. |
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Dr. Dobb's | Smartphone Operating Systems: A Developer's Perspective | March 30, 2009
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Why are you even arguing this? |
Jason,
Really, Please listen to the words you've been given from some of the top and most reputable providors to this forum, the O/S's are different, fact. |
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The OS is the same, but the interface between the hardware and the OS is different per device. This is what is normally referred to as firmware in most computing environments, but also can include device drivers. In the case of the BlackBerry OS, RIM is choosing the specific components for each particular device such as the "device drivers" to allow the phone to work on that hardware, but the underlying OS is the same. The UI is also being cherry picked per device because some devices support the touch screen and others do not. The UI itself is very malleable because this is how themes are worked into the OS. By cherry picking what gets added or not to the latest version of their OS, RIM is making sure that the amount of space used by their OS is minimal. With respect to the 9530 and 9500 model differences, the underlying OS is the same and the UI should also be the same, but the device drivers that connect the abstracted layer of the OS to the actual hardware are varying because of the hardware components of the CDMA and GSM networks. This appears to be occurring at the device selection stage of the OS upgrade/install. Even though the hardware is different and the hardware layer is different on the actual phones themselves, the underlying OS is the same and both hardware layers exist but are chosen per device to minimize storage space of all the driver programs for each hardware model. RIM only makes one operating system that is referred to as the RIM or BlackBerry OS, or the RIM or BlackBerry platform and there is no reason that they would want to waste precious application memory on each device with the device driver programs for other devices. The question that should be focused upon is what the different version numbers indicate. There are four key numbers that distinguish each device's corresponding software. There is the number referred to as the "OS version" number by everyone on almost all threads on all forums, blogs, and websites, however, this naming might be incorrectly perpetuated. There is also a platform, cryptographic kernel, and branding version number. The cryptographic kernel appears to be the device's encryption kernel while the platform and OS number refer to other components of the software and firmware. I compared the version numbers for both the 9530 and 9500 for the same "OS number" release and they are a perfect match. The branding version appears at first glance to indicate the hardware device but some device models have different branding numbers. This could be a way to distinguish product lines of the actual hardware fabrication such as a newer motherboard and microchip or a newer radio antenna etc. Because of the use of the word "branding" it also indicates to me the possibility of it being used by various carriers and other branding level entities that would want to be distinguished from other "brands" for the same model phone, but I found a contradiction on that last idea when I stumbled across someone with friends who have different branding version numbers, but similar carriers and I assumed similar physical locations on their same model of phone. |
Jason, this is a community forum. You have been warned before about your rants. If you want to rant, take it to the Rants and Raves section of this forum where it is welcome. Otherwise, most of what you post is pure threadcrapping, intended to take each and every thread offtopic to your lala land, and I am tired of it.
If you want to come and help out here AND be a part of community, you are welcome. Quit arguing with every single thing posted here, and I am betting you will find in return that others won't nitpick you. Do you have questions about that? |
so other people with 9530's, what is the best performing version of the OS at present? has anybody ran any benchmarks to find out? i have only compared my 9530's 4.7.0.75 to my 7130e using a benchmark program i got a long time ago on my 7130e...
are there enough people out there reading this thread that have 9530's with different OS versions that could run a benchmark to tell if the performance is better or worse per each OS version? could we start such a thread or has anybody already started such a thread? (besides this old thread that i found: http://www.blackberryforums.com/gene...ts-here-7.html ) |
.113 for verizon storm is much better for me than .75 which came stock on the storm. .113 rotates faster and it has a new text selection copy and paste function that is better than .75
It just seems overall snappier. if that is a correct term for bb. because up until now all bb's were snappy. only with storm do I feel it is not really fast. |
have you tried to benchmark your 9530? it'd be cool to see a comparison of .113 and .75's side by side
follow that link and get the software and run the benchmark...tell me your numbers and i'll post mine when i get back |
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Comparing your .75 with my .113 is apples and orangatans ;-) |
why would it be apples and oranges if we have the same model? i'm talking about comparing my 9530 with .75 and his 9530 with .113...are models of the same phone now completely different too?
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Because YOU don't know what HE is running on his device as background applications and additional resources in use. And HE doesn't know which YOU are running.
It's like saying let's race our scooters and see who is the fastest. You on your street in Chicago and me on my street in Miami, and then we'll compare times. No regard to the grade or wind other factors. That's no benchmark, its foolishness. |
well, the benchmarking app i believe tests underneath the applications and only tests the hardware and OS/firmware much the way a benchmark for your download or upload speed would work...this is how it gets the operations per second number among other things
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but in any case, an estimate from running the benchmarks would be fine...and especially if we both ran it on our own systems and compared our benchmarks with each upgrade to different OSes on each system...a before and after secondly, all the applications can be closed just to single out that variable more...the only thing we don't know about are background processes...but really how many can it be? if it can be a lot, then this is more merit argument of my desire that the OS should include better control of those background processes here are my numbers: Model: 9530woohoo! over a half of a megaflop on my mobile phone...sweet! |
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For my part, it was one of those things where I was speaking Spanish to myself in my head, and I typed what I said, not the correct spelling. :razz: |
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What a horrible thread. I thought this site was suppose to beneficial :x
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So you're basing this entire forum off of one thread?
What makes this thread so horrible? |
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